Paul Stevenson writes
How will this fit in with the byelaw preventing the use of radios and
personal stereos on the UndergrounD?

There is no such byelaw. However there is a byelaw which says that
no-one is allowed to use equipment for the reproduction of sound "to the
annoyance of any person" - which is slightly different.

So using a stereo with decent headphones is perfectly legal.

--
Dave

Dave wrote in news$q0Y1EtISP
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However there is a byelaw which says that
no-one is allowed to use equipment for the reproduction of sound "to the
annoyance of any person" - which is slightly different.

I wonder if this bylaw would outlaw the use of mobile phones! I certainly
get annoyed by use of phones on trains and buses. Does anyone know of any
organisation campaigning for reduction in use of mobiles.

"Andrew Black" wrote in message
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Dave wrote in news$q0Y1EtISP
:

However there is a byelaw which says that
no-one is allowed to use equipment for the reproduction of sound "to the
annoyance of any person" - which is slightly different.

I wonder if this bylaw would outlaw the use of mobile phones! I certainly
get annoyed by use of phones on trains and buses. Does anyone know of any
organisation campaigning for reduction in use of mobiles.

What annoys you? The rings or the chatter?

Victor

Thus spake Andrew Black


Dave wrote in news$q0Y1EtISP
:

However there is a byelaw which says that
no-one is allowed to use equipment for the reproduction of sound "to the
annoyance of any person" - which is slightly different.

I wonder if this bylaw would outlaw the use of mobile phones! I certainly
get annoyed by use of phones on trains and buses. Does anyone know of any
organisation campaigning for reduction in use of mobiles.

There are some 'quiet' coaches on trains. Thing is mobile phones are
useful whilst on PT, especially if there's a delay. Phones can be tamed
so that they don't disturb other passengers much. I really don't think
my sending text messages disturbs anybody.

Isn't there an Orange advert along the lines of "He who does not know
how to use silent mode on phone has no friends, only enemies"?

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in
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There are some 'quiet' coaches on trains. Thing is mobile phones are
useful whilst on PT, especially if there's a delay. Phones can be
tamed so that they don't disturb other passengers much. I really don't
think my sending text messages disturbs anybody.

I have no problem with short phone calls ("sorry I am going to be half an
hour late"). It's the long babble that annoys me (".... I saw Darren
yesterday..... He is going out with Tracey ....."). I recknon people talk
louder on mobile phones than on landline phones.

Andrew Black wrote in
:

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in
:

There are some 'quiet' coaches on trains. Thing is mobile phones are
useful whilst on PT, especially if there's a delay. Phones can be
tamed so that they don't disturb other passengers much. I really don't
think my sending text messages disturbs anybody.

I have no problem with short phone calls ("sorry I am going to be half an
hour late"). It's the long babble that annoys me (".... I saw Darren
yesterday..... He is going out with Tracey ....."). I recknon people talk
louder on mobile phones than on landline phones.


The is a simliar debate in another NG at the mo on the, essentially the
people that get annoyed appear to be annoyed at the banllity of the called -
i.e. they are eavesdropping but get annoyed because they can only hear helf
the call.

Thus spake Andrew Black


Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in
:

There are some 'quiet' coaches on trains. Thing is mobile phones are
useful whilst on PT, especially if there's a delay. Phones can be
tamed so that they don't disturb other passengers much. I really don't
think my sending text messages disturbs anybody.

I have no problem with short phone calls ("sorry I am going to be half an
hour late"). It's the long babble that annoys me (".... I saw Darren
yesterday..... He is going out with Tracey .....").

This also annoys me but I'm not entirely innocent. Some tariffs seem to
encourage mindless babble, especially at off-peak times.

I recknon people talk
louder on mobile phones than on landline phones.

I think they may speak a little louder; more to the point they do not
seek the quiet & seclusion customary with landline calls.



--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

"Andrew Black" wrote in message
...
Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in
:

There are some 'quiet' coaches on trains. Thing is mobile phones are
useful whilst on PT, especially if there's a delay. Phones can be
tamed so that they don't disturb other passengers much. I really don't
think my sending text messages disturbs anybody.

I have no problem with short phone calls ("sorry I am going to be half an
hour late"). It's the long babble that annoys me (".... I saw Darren
yesterday..... He is going out with Tracey ....."). I recknon people talk
louder on mobile phones than on landline phones.

They do. I think it's partly because many mobile phones have the "foldback"
of your own voice into the earphone set at too low a level so you think that
you need to speak up. If I use a mobile on a train, I usually turn to face
the window so my voice will be "contained" by the carriage wall and the back
of the seat. Most people take great delight in making sure as many people as
possible can hear - even now, long after the novelty and "pose-value" of
mobile phones have worn off.




I once experienced a delightful incident involving mobile phones. It was in
the late 80s when mobiles were still mainly used only by yuppies. I was on a
train back from London at the rush hour and the only place where there was
even standing room was in the corridor outside the first-class compartments.
In the compartment (amongst others) there were two yuppies. One reached into
the inside pocket of his coat and pulled out a housebrick-sized mobile
phone. Within about three microseconds, the other did likewise. They both
dialled furiously and then started to speak. A look of puzzlement crossed
their faces - they'd got a crossed line and had ended up talking to each
other.

Then the fun began. To begin with, they tried to outdo each other: "My
call's more important than yours - I've got a ten million pound contract
resting on this call". "So what, my call's worth a twenty million pound
contract". And so it continued, with each trying to outdo the other.
Bull**** was flying everywhere! Suddenly one tried a different tactic. "OK,
then. You go ahead if you must. See if I care." "No, YOU go first." And so
it started again, this time with them trying to see which one could grovel
lowest.

By this stage, the rest of the people in the compartment and everyone in the
corridor with the noses pressed up against the glass were in hysterics at
these childish antics - which only egged them on more. Finally one could
stand the humiliation no more. He stood up and flounced out of the carriage,
barging past everyone in the corridor muttering "Tosser", "W*nker" and other
such epithets.

Best bit of entertainment I've had for years.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:10:53 +0100, Dave
wrote:

Paul Stevenson writes
How will this fit in with the byelaw preventing the use of radios and
personal stereos on the UndergrounD?

There is no such byelaw. However there is a byelaw which says that
no-one is allowed to use equipment for the reproduction of sound "to the
annoyance of any person" - which is slightly different.

So using a stereo with decent headphones is perfectly legal.

Another bye-law will be passed only permitting tuning into LU Digital
Radio networl

=:-)

David Cowie wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:10:53 +0100, Dave
wrote:

Paul Stevenson writes
How will this fit in with the byelaw preventing the use
of radios and personal stereos on the UndergrounD?

There is no such byelaw. However there is a byelaw which
says that no-one is allowed to use equipment for the
reproduction of sound "to the annoyance of any person" -
which is slightly different.

So using a stereo with decent headphones is perfectly
legal.

Another bye-law will be passed only permitting tuning into
LU Digital Radio networl

=:-)

Perhaps they should provide every passenger with a headset, then they be
able to broadcast up to the minute travel info. :-))