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Thus spake Andrew Black


Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in
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There are some 'quiet' coaches on trains. Thing is mobile phones are
useful whilst on PT, especially if there's a delay. Phones can be
tamed so that they don't disturb other passengers much. I really don't
think my sending text messages disturbs anybody.


I have no problem with short phone calls ("sorry I am going to be half an
hour late"). It's the long babble that annoys me (".... I saw Darren
yesterday..... He is going out with Tracey .....").


This also annoys me but I'm not entirely innocent. Some tariffs seem to
encourage mindless babble, especially at off-peak times.

I recknon people talk
louder on mobile phones than on landline phones.


I think they may speak a little louder; more to the point they do not
seek the quiet & seclusion customary with landline calls.



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Andrew Black wrote in
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Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in
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There are some 'quiet' coaches on trains. Thing is mobile phones are
useful whilst on PT, especially if there's a delay. Phones can be
tamed so that they don't disturb other passengers much. I really don't
think my sending text messages disturbs anybody.


I have no problem with short phone calls ("sorry I am going to be half an
hour late"). It's the long babble that annoys me (".... I saw Darren
yesterday..... He is going out with Tracey ....."). I recknon people talk
louder on mobile phones than on landline phones.


The is a simliar debate in another NG at the mo on the, essentially the
people that get annoyed appear to be annoyed at the banllity of the called -
i.e. they are eavesdropping but get annoyed because they can only hear helf
the call.
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Martin Underwood wrote:
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Perhaps they should provide every passenger with a
headset, then they be able to broadcast up to the minute
travel info. :-))


But if they did that, they'd have to develop a special
reverberation filter to render the announcements
unintelligible (as for PA announcements on tube platforms)
or only employ announcers with strong non-English accents
who were unfamiliar with station names or even the English
language ;-)


No problem, it could be built in, there's all sorts of filters available to
give audio effects.


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But if they did that, they'd have to develop a special reverberation

filter
to render the announcements unintelligible (as for PA announcements on

tube
platforms) or only employ announcers with strong non-English accents who
were unfamiliar with station names or even the English language ;-)


Would Scottish ( Edinburgh ) accents be allowed?


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Perhaps they should provide every passenger with a headset, then they be
able to broadcast up to the minute travel info. :-))


Too late! We're already investigating doing this!



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"The Equalizer" wrote in message
...
"Salvation is at hand for Tube commuters bored by the small print on
carriage advertisements and being stuck in tunnels. London Underground is

in
talks with cable company NTL about installing a digital radio network on

the
Tube. Passengers with portable radios will be able to tune in to a range

of
radio stations, and NTL is also considering using the signal to send video
data to handheld computers. Discussions are at an early stage, but Capital
Radio is said to have expressed interest in the venture. Whether witty DJs
will be able to offer distraction from traveling conditions unfit for

cattle
is another matter."


NTL? The same company that is currently in Chapter 11? The same company
that when a customer comes along and offers cash to receive cable TV gets
told that NTL are not accepting new customers? The same company that hasn't
cabled most of the franchises its legacy companies won some years ago? The
company that has an extravagent head office in the US despite most (and not
far short of all) of its business interests being based in the UK and
originally being a UK company.

And they have the money to invest in the Tube? Seeing really will be
believing.


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Matthew Malthouse wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:49:59 +0100 Jack Taylor wrote:


Some people seem to be so utterly insecure that they are unable
to spend an hour on public transport without speaking to
someone/anyone for the duration. I've been on PT where
passengers in close proximity have systematically worked their
way through their entire phone book to sate their desperate
need for company. How sad!


Most inexplicable to me are those conversations held on the way home
with someone at that very place waiting for the caller to arrive.

What's so life shattering that it cuoldn't wait until they get there?
Nothing apparently.


The only reason why people use mobiles for such frippery is that the calls
are so cheap. And then the phone companies wonder why they don't make a
profit. Absurd.

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What's so life shattering that it cuoldn't wait until they get there?
Nothing apparently.


The only reason why people use mobiles for such frippery is that the
calls are so cheap. And then the phone companies wonder why they don't
make a profit. Absurd.


I hardly use my mobile phone in public places because I don't want
people to hear my conversations. And the only time I hate mobile phone
users is when they try out all their ringtones in one go. And people
trying to make phone calls on the Victoria Line coming out of Victoria
and not understanding why they can't get a signal. That annoys me too.
But to be honest I don't see the difference between inane conversations
between people there. And on the phone.
Quite frankly I prefer mobile phone users. As at least you only have to
hear one side of their pointless stupid conversations. When you have two
of them there it gets unbearable.
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Matthew Malthouse wrote in
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:49:59 +0100 Jack Taylor wrote:
}
} "Andrew Black" wrote in message
} ...
} Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in
} :
}
} There are some 'quiet' coaches on trains. Thing is mobile phones
are } useful whilst on PT, especially if there's a delay. Phones
can be } tamed so that they don't disturb other passengers much. I
really don't } think my sending text messages disturbs anybody.
}
} I have no problem with short phone calls ("sorry I am going to be
half an } hour late"). It's the long babble that annoys me (".... I
saw Darren } yesterday..... He is going out with Tracey ....."). I
recknon people talk } louder on mobile phones than on landline
phones. }
} Some people seem to be so utterly insecure that they are unable to
spend an } hour on public transport without speaking to someone/anyone
for the } duration. I've been on PT where passengers in close proximity
have } systematically worked their way through their entire phone book
to sate } their desperate need for company. How sad!

Most inexplicable to me are those conversations held on the way home
with someone at that very place waiting for the caller to arrive.


More inexplicable are those whose lives are so hollow they have to eavesdrop
on others then denigrate them based on half an eavesdropped conversation.
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Steve wrote in message . ..
Matthew Malthouse wrote in
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Most inexplicable to me are those conversations held on the way home
with someone at that very place waiting for the caller to arrive.


More inexplicable are those whose lives are so hollow they have to eavesdrop
on others then denigrate them based on half an eavesdropped conversation.


When these fools are talking loudly , how exactly is one to prevent oneself
eavesdropping? And why shouldn't people who are so insecure that they can't
stay off a phone for an hour be denigrated?

B2003


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