On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:07:59 +0100, Peter Smyth wrote:

All Metronet lines are now suspended, including parts of the Piccadilly
where it runs over such lines.

Anyone know why it is considered safe for Chiltern to run over the Metronet
maintained Amersham - Harrow section, but not safe for the Met to do the
same?

Presumably because Chiltern have enough non-RMT drivers to be able to
run the Aylesbury via Amersham service. They also run over a
non-Metronet route (the route via High Wycombe), so they can stick all
the RMT drivers on that one.

On Sep 3, 11:15 pm, asdf wrote:
All Metronet lines are now suspended, including parts of the Piccadilly
where it runs over such lines.

Anyone know why it is considered safe for Chiltern to run over the Metronet
maintained Amersham - Harrow section, but not safe for the Met to do the
same?

Presumably because Chiltern have enough non-RMT drivers to be able to
run the Aylesbury via Amersham service. They also run over a
non-Metronet route (the route via High Wycombe), so they can stick all
the RMT drivers on that one.

Also, AIUI there isn't a very high proportion of RMT drivers on
National Rail compared to LUL - they're mostly ASLEF (I might be
completely wrong on that - it's from memory rather than Sourced Fact).

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

Ho hum that's
another option down the pan for tomorrow.

Yet another will be Jubilee connections with Metropolitan... probably
only the newer part is really safe.

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:47:52 +0100, Paul Corfield
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:26:05 +0100, Barry Salter
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

The Picc Line has one of the highest proportions of RMT drivers on the
network so it's no great surprise. If they were to run only on Tube
Lines maintained tracks that would mean Heathrow - Northfields and
Cockfosters - Hyde Park Corner only for the next three days. Even that
may be impossible because of maintenance and crewing issues as the stock
and crews would probably be imbalanced on the two isolated sections.

UPDATE at 20:22:

Piccadilly Line now suspended Hyde Park Corner to Northfields/Uxbridge.

That's the sort of thing I don't like being correct about. Ho hum that's
another option down the pan for tomorrow.

Suddenly I feel good about moving to an area where I have lots of ways
of getting into town in case of RMT.

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:26:05 +0100, Barry Salter
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

The Picc Line has one of the highest proportions of RMT drivers
on the network so it's no great surprise. If they were to run
only on Tube Lines maintained tracks that would mean Heathrow -
Northfields and Cockfosters - Hyde Park Corner only for the next
three days. Even that may be impossible because of maintenance
and crewing issues as the stock and crews would probably be
imbalanced on the two isolated sections.

UPDATE at 20:22:

Piccadilly Line now suspended Hyde Park Corner to
Northfields/Uxbridge.

That's the sort of thing I don't like being correct about. Ho hum
that's another option down the pan for tomorrow.

This morning it's only suspended from Rayners Lane to Uxbridge. I
gather LU staff did the necessary checks on the Metronet tracks west of
Barons Court to enable the Picc to run through on that stretch from soon
after 08:00. Good news.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:05:29 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

This morning it's only suspended from Rayners Lane to Uxbridge. I
gather LU staff did the necessary checks on the Metronet tracks west of
Barons Court to enable the Picc to run through on that stretch from soon
after 08:00. Good news.

Certainly something was done to get the tracks inspected and assured as
safe to use. I agree good news even if I did have to wait for 10 trains
and over 25 minutes to get on a train tonight - unreal!
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

John B wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:15 pm, asdf wrote:

Anyone know why it is considered safe for Chiltern to run over the
Metronet maintained Amersham - Harrow section, but not safe for the
Met to do the same?

Presumably because Chiltern have enough non-RMT drivers to be able to
run the Aylesbury via Amersham service. They also run over a
non-Metronet route (the route via High Wycombe), so they can stick
all the RMT drivers on that one.

Also, AIUI there isn't a very high proportion of RMT drivers on
National Rail compared to LUL - they're mostly ASLEF (I might be
completely wrong on that - it's from memory rather than Sourced Fact).

I don't know what the situation is like now - but about twelve or fifteen
years ago the Chiltern line was a-typical to the rest of the system, in that
it had a very high proportion of RMT drivers (they might still have been NUR
then), rather than ASLEF men. I recall happily travelling to and from work
during one dispute, when most of the national network was at a standstill,
due to "the wrong type of union".