On 9 Sep, 16:33, MIG wrote:
On Sep 9, 4:22 pm, Mizter T wrote:



On 9 Sep, 15:54, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

There were other considerations at Euston. The original City & South
London platform at Euston was an island in a wide tunnel. They were
dangerous and have all now gone except at one of the Clapham stations.

Errrr.... two of the Clapham stations, surely?

Probably. I never go there and was writing from memory only.

I do, and can tell you North and Common are both still narrow island
platforms. South isn't. Don't know about anything south of there.

tom

Clapham North and Clapham Common are the only two surviving
subterranean true island platforms on the whole Underground network.

I'm not someone who gets disconcerted by such things normally, but I
must admit I still find it a bit odd to be on those narrow platforms
when both a northbound and southbound train hurtle in to the station
at the same time. Probably something to do with the likely possibility
of me having just imbibed a Piña Colada.

I'm tempted to say they're worth a visit, though I'd think that some
of you might want to do something else having gone as far as Clapham.
You could always indulge in "a moment of madness" if that is your
wont ;-)-

There are some on the "sub-surface" lines though, and plenty above
ground.

I don't really understand why it seems more dangerous underground than
on the surface, given that the only additional escape route above
ground is still the other side of the tracks.

If it's just the narrowness of the platforms that matters, then that's
fair enough. Has anyone got figures on the width of island platforms
all around LU?


I believe one of the problems at Angel (and presumably elsewhere) was
that the platforms got quite crowded. I guess the passenger numbers at
the Claphams aren't so severe - nonetheless I bet that the staff at
both stations are very much on the ball when it comes to monitoring
the situation.

No figures for platform width, I can only offer links to some
photos...

Clapham Common
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aderowbotham/87781920/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hedgiecc/265147613/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicohogg/388308347/


Clapham North
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ollycourtney/232075853/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wetwebwork/150244846/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wetwebwork/150245689/

And the other benefit of Clapham North is that it makes you wiser...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68521817@N00/865518114/

On Sep 9, 4:53 pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 9 Sep, 16:33, MIG wrote:





On Sep 9, 4:22 pm, Mizter T wrote:

On 9 Sep, 15:54, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

There were other considerations at Euston. The original City & South
London platform at Euston was an island in a wide tunnel. They were
dangerous and have all now gone except at one of the Clapham stations.

Errrr.... two of the Clapham stations, surely?

Probably. I never go there and was writing from memory only.

I do, and can tell you North and Common are both still narrow island
platforms. South isn't. Don't know about anything south of there.

tom

Clapham North and Clapham Common are the only two surviving
subterranean true island platforms on the whole Underground network.

I'm not someone who gets disconcerted by such things normally, but I
must admit I still find it a bit odd to be on those narrow platforms
when both a northbound and southbound train hurtle in to the station
at the same time. Probably something to do with the likely possibility
of me having just imbibed a Piña Colada.

I'm tempted to say they're worth a visit, though I'd think that some
of you might want to do something else having gone as far as Clapham.
You could always indulge in "a moment of madness" if that is your
wont ;-)-

There are some on the "sub-surface" lines though, and plenty above
ground.

I don't really understand why it seems more dangerous underground than
on the surface, given that the only additional escape route above
ground is still the other side of the tracks.

If it's just the narrowness of the platforms that matters, then that's
fair enough. Has anyone got figures on the width of island platforms
all around LU?

I believe one of the problems at Angel (and presumably elsewhere) was
that the platforms got quite crowded. I guess the passenger numbers at
the Claphams aren't so severe - nonetheless I bet that the staff at
both stations are very much on the ball when it comes to monitoring
the situation.

No figures for platform width, I can only offer links to some
photos...

Clapham Commonhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/aderowbotham/87781920/http://www.flickr.com/photos/hedgiecc/265147613/http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicohogg/388308347/

Clapham Northhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/ollycourtney/232075853/http://www.flickr.com/photos/wetwebwork/150244846/http://www.flickr.com/photos/wetwebwork/150245689/

And the other benefit of Clapham North is that it makes you wiser...http://www.flickr.com/photos/68521817@N00/865518114/


From those photos, they do seem to be narrower than, say, Edgware
Road. Would be interesting to have figures though.

In article m,
(Mizter T) wrote:

On Sep 9, 4:22 pm, Mizter T wrote:

Clapham North and Clapham Common are the only two surviving
subterranean true island platforms on the whole Underground
network.

Have the Glasgow island platforms gone now?

No figures for platform width, I can only offer links to some
photos...

Clapham Common
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aderowbotham/87781920/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hedgiecc/265147613/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicohogg/388308347/


Clapham North
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ollycourtney/232075853/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wetwebwork/150244846/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wetwebwork/150245689/

Hmm. The yellow lines seem much closer to the platform edge than usual.
Is that because the platforms are so narrow?

And the other benefit of Clapham North is that it makes you wiser...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68521817@N00/865518114/

chuckle

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article m,
(Mizter T) wrote:


On Sep 9, 4:22 pm, Mizter T wrote:


Clapham North and Clapham Common are the only two surviving
subterranean true island platforms on the whole Underground
network.


Have the Glasgow island platforms gone now?


St Enoch has been rebuilt and IIRC one more station (Buchanan Street?),
all other still have island platforms.

--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof

On 9 Sep, 20:01, Olof Lagerkvist wrote:
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article m,
(Mizter T) wrote:

On Sep 9, 4:22 pm, Mizter T wrote:

Clapham North and Clapham Common are the only two surviving
subterranean true island platforms on the whole Underground
network.

Have the Glasgow island platforms gone now?

St Enoch has been rebuilt and IIRC one more station (Buchanan Street?),
all other still have island platforms.


It's been a while since I've been in Glasgow but I remember finding
them slightly disconcerting too - not helped by the fact that, at
least as I remember it, there wasn't anything upright on the island
platforms - either to sit or lean on or simply for psychological
reasons (I could grab hold of that just in case!).

Before linking you to some photos I do just want to reassert that I am
a tough guy really... honest!

West Street station:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:G...nderground.jpg
Kelvinhall station:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/gla/kelvinhall1.jpg
Shields Road station:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/teflon/518512661/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicohogg/74463281/
....though as one of the commentators says one side of this platform at
Buchanon Street station now has a screen...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdstrowes/286751141/

And this platform at Kelvinbridge looks somewhat wider that the above
examples:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/gla/kelvinbridge1.jpg

Incidentally on the Wikipedia entry I found a link to this fantastic
forum posting full of photos of the Glasgow subway of old -
fascinating:
http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/...pic.php?t=1057

Mizter T wrote:

On 9 Sep, 20:01, Olof Lagerkvist wrote:

St Enoch has been rebuilt and IIRC one more station (Buchanan Street?),
all other still have island platforms.



It's been a while since I've been in Glasgow but I remember finding
them slightly disconcerting too - not helped by the fact that, at
least as I remember it, there wasn't anything upright on the island
platforms - either to sit or lean on or simply for psychological
reasons (I could grab hold of that just in case!).

Before linking you to some photos I do just want to reassert that I am
a tough guy really... honest!


Yes sure, me too. Hm. Anyway, thanks for the links! I was in Glasgow
last year and I had exactly the same feeling about the island platforms.

And this platform at Kelvinbridge looks somewhat wider that the above
examples:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/gla/kelvinbridge1.jpg


Yes it is wider and does not really give the same scary feeling. That
station is also a little bit different because it is a lot deeper below
ground than the others.

--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof