Surprised
 

That there arn't any posts about the power cuts in America and the chaos it
caused on the New York subway. Perhaps CJD might have realised that us
knuckle-scraping morons might actually be needed to come and rescue him one
day?

Surprised
 

spammy wrote:

ok then. so what would happen to the tube if london's power
got cut? im guessing theres no auxillary system in
place....is there? i think i remember something about them
having their own fossil fuel power generators...

It has been on a number of occasions. What happened? The trains stopped.

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Roland Perry writes
ok then. so what would happen to the tube if london's power got cut? im
guessing theres no auxillary system in place....is there? i think i remember
something about them having their own fossil fuel power generators...

They used to have their own power generation, but take it from the
National Grid now.

Indeed they used to generate all their own power - the main power
station was at Lots Road in Chelsea. And as you say, they do take most
of their power from the National Grid now- but the Greenwich power
station has been kept as a back-up.

--
Dave

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In article , Cast_Iron
writes
ok then. so what would happen to the tube if london's power
got cut? im guessing theres no auxillary system in
place....is there? i think i remember something about them
having their own fossil fuel power generators...

It has been on a number of occasions. What happened? The trains stopped.

Yes, but in New York the power was predicted not to be restored for
anything up to three days. That's the sort of thing that's unthinkable
in the UK (even last autumn's storms didn't knock out major cities to
that extent, even if some villages suffered). A predicted 50m people
were cut off (the same as the UK's entire population).

Almost 24 hours later they still haven't restored all the power. And
*none* of New York's subway system (and almost all their other trains)
were announced overnight as cancelled for the whole day.

From www.msnbc.com as I type:

"New York City’s subway system remained closed, and city
officials said it would take six to eight hours to resume
operations after full electrical service was restored."

There's still no indication of what caused the problem, Cleveland is
having a serious problem with water supply, Air Canada has cancelled all
flights, and Detroit is going to take all weekend to have power
restored, apparently.
--
"It used to be that what a writer did was type a bit and then stare out of the
window a bit, type a bit, stare out of the window a bit. Networked computers
make these two activities converge, because now the thing you type on and the
window you stare out of are the same thing" - Douglas Adams 28/1/99.

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Cast_Iron wrote:
spammy wrote:

ok then. so what would happen to the tube if london's power
got cut? im guessing theres no auxillary system in
place....is there? i think i remember something about them
having their own fossil fuel power generators...

It has been on a number of occasions. What happened? The trains
stopped.

London's power got cut on a number of occasions? When was that?

In fact, LU is legally required to have a supply independent of the national
grid, and this is provided by the standby generating station at Greenwich.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:54:25 +0100, "spammy" wrote:


"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
. ..
That there arn't any posts about the power cuts in America and the chaos
it
caused on the New York subway. Perhaps CJD might have realised that us
knuckle-scraping morons might actually be needed to come and rescue him
one
day?

It wouldn't matter if he was on his last breath and you were the person
who saved his life. As soon as he saw your uniform he'd complain about
how incompetent you were for allowing the power to fail / station to
burn / train to crash (delete as applicable) in the first place.

ok then. so what would happen to the tube if london's power got cut? im
guessing theres no auxillary system in place....is there? i think i remember
something about them having their own fossil fuel power generators...

From what I understand there is a back up system in place now. The main
system is supplied from the National Grid and not the old power station
at Lots Road. This failing is what caused previous power outages. The
old LT Greenwich power station is the back up for the traction current
and has to switch in quickly if the main supply fails. IIRC the stations
are now equipped with battery back up facilities to allow them to stay
running. There is a regular (once a year or so) non traffic hours test
to satisfy the appropriate regulators that the facility is in place and
works.

This has been delivered as part of the Power PFI project.
HTIOI
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:54:25 +0100, "spammy" wrote:


"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
. ..
That there arn't any posts about the power cuts in America and the chaos
it
caused on the New York subway. Perhaps CJD might have realised that us
knuckle-scraping morons might actually be needed to come and rescue him
one
day?



ok then. so what would happen to the tube if london's power got cut? im
guessing theres no auxillary system in place....is there? i think i remember
something about them having their own fossil fuel power generators...

There is a back up.

Greenwich power station stands ready to provide a back if the Grid
fails.

Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

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In article , Roland Perry
writes
Cleveland is
having a serious problem with water supply,

As is Detroit now.

Air Canada has cancelled all flights,

The main reason for closing the airports is apparently the lack of power
for the X-ray and security machines. Air Traffic Control is working
fine, on emergency power.

and Detroit is going to take all weekend to have power
restored, apparently.

And people are now running out of petrol, and abandoning their cars.
--
"It used to be that what a writer did was type a bit and then stare out of the
window a bit, type a bit, stare out of the window a bit. Networked computers
make these two activities converge, because now the thing you type on and the
window you stare out of are the same thing" - Douglas Adams 28/1/99.

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It was Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:57:22 +0100, and "Robin Mayes"
wrote in uk.transport.london:
| That there arn't any posts about the power cuts in America
| and the chaos it caused on the New York subway.

misc.transport.urban-transit might be a better bet. Why
would people complain about NY in a London Transport group?

BTW: Those that know the most first hand may be the most
delayed on getting the power back on. It took a while to
get everyone out of the system, but no serious injuries.

JL


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"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
...
That there arn't any posts about the power cuts in America and the chaos
it
caused on the New York subway. Perhaps CJD might have realised that us
knuckle-scraping morons might actually be needed to come and rescue him
one
day?



Lol,. your right there mate. Am i the only one who remembers lul did have a
powercut? and they got all passengers from trains using there back up
powerstation?