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What surprises me is that there is a factory anywhere in London let
alone Croydon or the whole of SE England come to that.
I thought that London as a 100% service industry sector. I suppose it
could be a warehouse for all those Far East imports.


There are numerous food factories in Park Royal.
Kodak has a huge factory in Wealdstone.




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On 13 Sep, 11:51, "John Rowland"
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Kev wrote:

What surprises me is that there is a factory anywhere in London let
alone Croydon or the whole of SE England come to that.
I thought that London as a 100% service industry sector. I suppose it
could be a warehouse for all those Far East imports.


There are numerous food factories in Park Royal.
Kodak has a huge factory in Wealdstone.


Sorry, John but the Kodak factory in Wealdstone is now but a tiny
shadow of what it once was.

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Kev wrote

What surprises me is that there is a factory anywhere in London let
alone Croydon or the whole of SE England come to that.
I thought that London as a 100% service industry sector. I suppose it
could be a warehouse for all those Far East imports.


There is *some* manufacturing in fact. Looks at BT classified section.

Boat & yacht building ? Makers of sparkling wine ?

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On 13 Sep, 11:51, "John Rowland"
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Kev wrote:

What surprises me is that there is a factory anywhere in London let
alone Croydon or the whole of SE England come to that.
I thought that London as a 100% service industry sector. I suppose
it could be a warehouse for all those Far East imports.


There are numerous food factories in Park Royal.
Kodak has a huge factory in Wealdstone.


Sorry, John but the Kodak factory in Wealdstone is now but a tiny
shadow of what it once was.


Actually, when you drive past it now appears to be a pile of rubble. I
don't know if any part of it is still open.


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Now, somebody tell me why there's a factory in Croydon with a number
written in binary on the roof:


http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl...82013,-0.12222...


It's not a binary number, it's an arrangement of skylights. The
southern number alternates 1s and 0s, and the northern one nearly
does, which suggests that the similarity to ones and zeroes is
coincidental. If you look at the building further north, it has
similar skylights but in a less interesting pattern.


What surprises me is that there is a factory anywhere in London let
alone Croydon or the whole of SE England come to that.
I thought that London as a 100% service industry sector. I suppose it
could be a warehouse for all those Far East imports.


Well, given how often there are lineside fires in premises with
exploding gas cylinders, one has to assume there's actually still quite
a bit of manufacturing in the London area.




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Kev wrote:

What surprises me is that there is a factory anywhere in London let
alone Croydon or the whole of SE England come to that.
I thought that London as a 100% service industry sector. I suppose it
could be a warehouse for all those Far East imports.


There's this "little" thing called the Tate & Lyle Sugar Refinery down
in Silvertown for starters:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=51.500635,0.047261&spn=0 .002965,0.007296&z=17&om=1

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On 13 Sep, 00:16, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Mizter T wrote:
On 10 Sep, 00:41, "John Rowland"
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I think I've located where the tower is - it's very near Southall
station on a road called The Straight and is marked "Water Tower" on
this map:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=512448&y=179802


http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...


There's a water tower converted to flats in Ladywell which I mentioned
recently.
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhou...eLadywell3.jpg


The best one is in Suffolk...
http://www.devsys.co.uk/Album/Places...use%20in%20the...


Thanks John, I don't know why I didn't think of using an aerial view to
confirm my suspicions... I must be getting old and stuck in my ways!
Problem is I'm quite a fan of the information-rich, if somewhat messy,
A-Z style mapping that Streetmap offers - even if it is actually
somewhat out of date - that I often don't look elsewhere. But I must
remember to check out Live Maps... the 'birds eye view' facility is very
useful.


I find Multimap's mapping much better than Streetmap's, and they've given
the interface a very good google-alike makeover recently. There's now a
tickbox which shows you where cash machines are, which is a winner!


It depends on where you're looking - but in London, both Streetmap and
Multimap would appear to use exactly the same mapping sourced from
Collins Bartholemew and copyrighted 2006. Elsewhere, say in
Manchester, Multimap appears to use Tele Atlas mapping (copyright
2006) whilst Streetmap's just says "(c)streetmap.co.uk".

So when looking at London mapping I've tended to use Streetmap, as I
prefer the square window on the map that it provides and the great
ability it has to serve you up a "Large Map". But the new version of
Multimap, with it's ability to drag the map around (in Google Maps
fashion), is also useful (though the somewhat tired computer I'm using
at the moment struggles a bit with it!).

I always liked Streetmap's very simple printer-friendly page, but I
see now that Multimap's new simple printer-friendly page is pretty
good as well. Multimap does directions too, unlike Streetmap, but I
only ever really use this to find out distances rather than
directions.


Google maps has good aerial photos, of course, although their maps are
ugly. It does have a super-nifty feature in some US cities, though:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=empi...e=UTF8&ll=40.7...


Yeah, that is neat. I thought you were going to refer to the slightly
controversial 'Street view' available on Google Maps in some areas
(still just available in San Francisco or has it spread elsewhere?). I
was about to cross a main road near me a few weeks ago when a couple
of people on cycles - at least one was a tricycle (can't remember the
other) - got my attention. On the front of this young womans tricycle
was some kind of contraption along with a hand-written notice to
"Smile" - as she passed I saw the contraption was three smallish
webcam-style cameras. So I am led to wonder whether they were
gathering video for some London 'street view' or equivalent (I think
something like this already exists, at least in central London, but I
can't remember the name). However the whole arrangement was wobbling
about somewhat and didn't look that professional (only 3 cameras)
which leads me to wonder if they weren't in fact art students or the
like, as I understand the Google 'Street View' images were/are
gathered by a rather hi-tech van with loads of cameras mounted on it.

Either way I'm just wondering where I might in the future see an image
of myself standing on the side of the kerb, staring out looking
totally gormless!

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What surprises me is that there is a factory anywhere in London let
alone Croydon or the whole of SE England come to that. I thought that
London as a 100% service industry sector.


Well, given how often there are lineside fires in premises with
exploding gas cylinders, one has to assume there's actually still quite
a bit of manufacturing in the London area.


Is a site with gas cylinders necessarily a manufacturing operation?

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What surprises me is that there is a factory anywhere in London let
alone Croydon or the whole of SE England come to that. I thought that
London as a 100% service industry sector.


Well, given how often there are lineside fires in premises with
exploding gas cylinders, one has to assume there's actually still quite
a bit of manufacturing in the London area.


Is a site with gas cylinders necessarily a manufacturing operation?


Quite - acetylene cylinders can be used anywhere requiring welding,
such as a construction site, a breakers yard, a garage or a workshop.
Only the last might qualify as a manufacturing operation.

There isn't an enormous amount of actual manufacturing in London, but
perhaps sometimes people think of the service sector as solely
comprising offices, travel agents and florists. There's a lot of
warehouse, workshop and other hands-on type activities in London (for
want of a far better phrase), though quite often it's not always
immediately obvious where this is happening.

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On 13 Sep, 11:51, "John Rowland"
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Kev wrote:

What surprises me is that there is a factory anywhere in London let
alone Croydon or the whole of SE England come to that.
I thought that London as a 100% service industry sector. I suppose
it could be a warehouse for all those Far East imports.

There are numerous food factories in Park Royal.
Kodak has a huge factory in Wealdstone.


Sorry, John but the Kodak factory in Wealdstone is now but a tiny
shadow of what it once was.


Actually, when you drive past it now appears to be a pile of rubble. I
don't know if any part of it is still open.



I think one of my acquaintances works there and has a kodak email address.

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