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It was broken again, suspended between White City and Leytonstone IIRC,
by 19:30 tonight. Not reported on the BBC, or so it seems.


The TfL website is now saying:

Suspended between Ealing Broadway/West Ruislip and Leytonstone, and between
Hainault and Woodford, severe delays elsewhere, due to an earlier incident
at Holland Park




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On Sep 12, 7:39 pm, "dB" wrote:
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6991061.stm

How many trains fail across the country in the course of a normal
day, resulting in pax detraining? Is it really as newsworthy as
the BBC seem to think?


Paul


In fairness, it is causing some very severe delays. It started
just after 9 o'clock this morning and is still going on now.
Considering that both White City and Ruislip have depots, I am
surprised that there are so few trains running between those
stations (and Ealing Broadway) in peak time this evening. They
can't have all the trains the other side of London; the westbound
service also came to a halt this morning because the trains were
stacking up. So where have all these trains gone?


Put away in depots after drivers refused to drive them "in the
interests of health & safety" after a bit fell off of one of them at
Holland Park this morning (here we go again...). And poor Bob Crow
is probably stuck in Brighon for the TUC Conferance!


Does anyone know which bit fell off? I hope it wasn't a motor again.

If the RMT are worried about bits falling off, why are they still
driving between Leytonstone and Epping, and Leytonstone and Hainault?

I see that the LU website also says that there may be disruption
tomorrow (Thursday) morning. No further details, possibly to avoid
alarming the public about bits falling off and safety concerns.

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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:20:08 GMT, "Richard J."
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wrote:
On Sep 12, 7:39 pm, "dB" wrote:
"Paul Scott" wrote in message

...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6991061.stm

How many trains fail across the country in the course of a normal
day, resulting in pax detraining? Is it really as newsworthy as
the BBC seem to think?

Paul

In fairness, it is causing some very severe delays. It started
just after 9 o'clock this morning and is still going on now.
Considering that both White City and Ruislip have depots, I am
surprised that there are so few trains running between those
stations (and Ealing Broadway) in peak time this evening. They
can't have all the trains the other side of London; the westbound
service also came to a halt this morning because the trains were
stacking up. So where have all these trains gone?


Put away in depots after drivers refused to drive them "in the
interests of health & safety" after a bit fell off of one of them at
Holland Park this morning (here we go again...). And poor Bob Crow
is probably stuck in Brighon for the TUC Conferance!


Does anyone know which bit fell off? I hope it wasn't a motor again.


Not yet - more info in the morning I expect. If it had been a motor
there would probably have been a derailment with all that typically
entails. Given the line got back into service after the incident I
would guess that what fell off was not too substantial. However having
anything falling off is not acceptable.

If the RMT are worried about bits falling off, why are they still
driving between Leytonstone and Epping, and Leytonstone and Hainault?


Possibly because the few trains that are needed for that have been
inspected in Hainault depot and passed for service? The rest of the
fleet will be having a "once round" done on them now and overnight with
the intent of maximising the number available for service in the
morning.

I see that the LU website also says that there may be disruption
tomorrow (Thursday) morning. No further details, possibly to avoid
alarming the public about bits falling off and safety concerns.


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On 12 Sep, 22:43, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:20:08 GMT, "Richard J."



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On Sep 12, 7:39 pm, "dB" wrote:
"Paul Scott" wrote in message


. ..


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6991061.stm


How many trains fail across the country in the course of a normal
day, resulting in pax detraining? Is it really as newsworthy as
the BBC seem to think?


Paul


In fairness, it is causing some very severe delays. It started
just after 9 o'clock this morning and is still going on now.
Considering that both White City and Ruislip have depots, I am
surprised that there are so few trains running between those
stations (and Ealing Broadway) in peak time this evening. They
can't have all the trains the other side of London; the westbound
service also came to a halt this morning because the trains were
stacking up. So where have all these trains gone?


Put away in depots after drivers refused to drive them "in the
interests of health & safety" after a bit fell off of one of them at
Holland Park this morning (here we go again...). And poor Bob Crow
is probably stuck in Brighon for the TUC Conferance!


Does anyone know which bit fell off? I hope it wasn't a motor again.


Not yet - more info in the morning I expect. If it had been a motor
there would probably have been a derailment with all that typically
entails. Given the line got back into service after the incident


Was it definatly back in service? It was suspended from WC to MA every
time I checked

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On 12 Sep, 21:52, alex_t wrote:
It's been 12 hours since the failure, and just got worse, what the
hell is going on?


Apparently RMT members refuse to drive trains because of safety
concerns. I guess they want to recover lost time off...


Can we not shoot them or something?

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citing spurious safety ******** for their pointless class war...]

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:46:39PM +0100, Paul Scott wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6991061.stm
How many trains fail across the country in the course of a normal day,
resulting in pax detraining? Is it really as newsworthy as the BBC seem to
think?


It's quite rare on the tube, and the story *is* buried down in the local
news section.

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