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In article , Richard wrote:
The first search return for 'daily mail drink driving' was
their columnist Nigel Dempster being banned for two years for
crashing while drunk. Which might explain some of their
attitudes.


"The columnist was among a group of seven people who tried to
fight their drink driving charge by disputing the reliability
and legal status of the alcohol testing equipment used by
police."


That's a somewhat kind assessment:

"The gossip columnist Nigel Dempster was convicted of drink- driving yesterday and branded a liar by a judge for insisting he had not had any alcohol on the day he crashed his car into a lamp-post.

District judge Paul Clark described as "beyond contempt" Dempster's driving while two times over the limit. He added: "To put it bluntly, Mr Dempster lied to the police and I am satisfied he did so to disguise the fact that he had been drinking and he knew he was over the limit." "

http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspub...975010,00.html

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Anyone using force is required to show that it was reasonable in the
circumstances - e.g. if Tony Martin had been threatened with a knife, firing
a lethal weapon in their direction might have been reasonable.

If you move to a system where minor crimes are subject to unlimited
punishment, things quickly escalate.

[...]

For example, as we've seen in the past, it produces cases of people
being driven from their vandalised homes for the heinous crime of being
a paediatrician.

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Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
In article , Richard
writes
Anyone using force is required to show that it was reasonable in the
circumstances - e.g. if Tony Martin had been threatened with a knife, firing
a lethal weapon in their direction might have been reasonable.

If you move to a system where minor crimes are subject to unlimited
punishment, things quickly escalate.

[...]

For example, as we've seen in the past, it produces cases of people
being driven from their vandalised homes for the heinous crime of being
a paediatrician.


Indeed. And Spike Milligna also suffered...

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Gordon Joly wrote:

Indeed. And Spike Milligna also suffered...


From what did Spike suffer?


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Gordon Joly wrote:

Indeed. And Spike Milligna also suffered...


From what did Spike suffer?


Well, he has been diagnosed as having "Bi-polar disorder" ( previously then
diagonosis was schizoprhrenia, but it was toodifficult to spell properly).
Sufferers from any " mental health problem " tend to be ostracised,
socially, I suppose that his 'celebrity' has caused him to gain the
attention of the
"saner" sections of "normal society". ( please understand that the previous
section is meant sarcastically.




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