"Stuart" wrote in message
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Peter Lawrence wrote:
I notice that one small part of this project has now happened - there
is now a new, devious, subway from the northern end of the Picc
platforms leading to the existing route to the Vic and TL platforms.
The old subway is closed off. Obviously this has been done to allow
the route from the new ticket hall to the Picc and other platforms to
be constructed but the new subway is part of the final plan.


I noticed this the other day, haven't had a look yet though. I assume the
subway joins the exsisting tunnel further down?

What is happening to the Thameslink tunnel once Thameslink move in a few
weeks?

LU take over the Pentonville Road entrance and staff it as it is a secondary
means of escape until the Northern ticket hall is opened, at the very
earliest.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:47:54 GMT, "Robin Mayes"
wrote:


"Stuart" wrote in message
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Peter Lawrence wrote:
I notice that one small part of this project has now happened - there
is now a new, devious, subway from the northern end of the Picc
platforms leading to the existing route to the Vic and TL platforms.
The old subway is closed off. Obviously this has been done to allow
the route from the new ticket hall to the Picc and other platforms to
be constructed but the new subway is part of the final plan.


I noticed this the other day, haven't had a look yet though. I assume the
subway joins the exsisting tunnel further down?

Yes, about 2/3 of the way to the Victoria line.

What is happening to the Thameslink tunnel once Thameslink move in a few
weeks?

LU take over the Pentonville Road entrance and staff it as it is a secondary
means of escape until the Northern ticket hall is opened, at the very
earliest.

I would guess it has a long term future serving local residents and
workers; there will be more of the latter as the area become
regenerated..
--
Peter Lawrence

On 14 Oct, 18:31, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
I notice that one small part of this project has now happened - there
is now a new, devious, subway from the northern end of the Picc
platforms leading to the existing route to the Vic and TL platforms.
The old subway is closed off. Obviously this has been done to allow
the route from the new ticket hall to the Picc and other platforms to
be constructed but the new subway is part of the final plan.

I noticed this the other day, haven't had a look yet though. I assume the
subway joins the exsisting tunnel further down?

What's happening to the tunnel that's closed off?

On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On 14 Oct, 18:31, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:

I notice that one small part of this project has now happened - there
is now a new, devious, subway from the northern end of the Picc
platforms leading to the existing route to the Vic and TL platforms.
The old subway is closed off. Obviously this has been done to allow
the route from the new ticket hall to the Picc and other platforms to
be constructed but the new subway is part of the final plan.
I noticed this the other day, haven't had a look yet though. I assume the
subway joins the exsisting tunnel further down?

What's happening to the tunnel that's closed off?

More to the point , why has it been closed off? Why not just have 2
tunnels to lessen the crowding at platform level?

B2003

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:05:05 -0700, lonelytraveller
wrote:

On 14 Oct, 18:31, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
I notice that one small part of this project has now happened - there
is now a new, devious, subway from the northern end of the Picc
platforms leading to the existing route to the Vic and TL platforms.
The old subway is closed off. Obviously this has been done to allow
the route from the new ticket hall to the Picc and other platforms to
be constructed but the new subway is part of the final plan.

I noticed this the other day, haven't had a look yet though. I assume the
subway joins the exsisting tunnel further down?

What's happening to the tunnel that's closed off?

I assume it is being enlarged/ extended westwards to provide the route
from Northern ticket hall to both Picc and Vic lines.
--
Peter Lawrence

On 15 Oct, 20:30, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:05:05 -0700, lonelytraveller

wrote:
On 14 Oct, 18:31, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
I notice that one small part of this project has now happened - there
is now a new, devious, subway from the northern end of the Picc
platforms leading to the existing route to the Vic and TL platforms.
The old subway is closed off. Obviously this has been done to allow
the route from the new ticket hall to the Picc and other platforms to
be constructed but the new subway is part of the final plan.

I noticed this the other day, haven't had a look yet though. I assume the
subway joins the exsisting tunnel further down?

What's happening to the tunnel that's closed off?

I assume it is being enlarged/ extended westwards to provide the route
from Northern ticket hall to both Picc and Vic lines.
--
Peter Lawrence

I've had another look at that diagram of the new tunnels, and it seems
the new tunnel is the n-shaped one at the far end, not the one across
the middle. It seems a bit strange to dig a completely new tunnel that
you are going to abandon in a couple of years - will it have any
purpose when the new entrance opens?

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:54:50 -0700, lonelytraveller
wrote:

On 15 Oct, 20:30, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:05:05 -0700, lonelytraveller

wrote:
On 14 Oct, 18:31, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
I notice that one small part of this project has now happened - there
is now a new, devious, subway from the northern end of the Picc
platforms leading to the existing route to the Vic and TL platforms.
The old subway is closed off. Obviously this has been done to allow
the route from the new ticket hall to the Picc and other platforms to
be constructed but the new subway is part of the final plan.

I noticed this the other day, haven't had a look yet though. I assume the
subway joins the exsisting tunnel further down?

What's happening to the tunnel that's closed off?

I assume it is being enlarged/ extended westwards to provide the route
from Northern ticket hall to both Picc and Vic lines.
--
Peter Lawrence

I've had another look at that diagram of the new tunnels, and it seems
the new tunnel is the n-shaped one at the far end, not the one across
the middle. It seems a bit strange to dig a completely new tunnel that
you are going to abandon in a couple of years - will it have any
purpose when the new entrance opens?

I assume it will provide the Picc - Vic interchange route, reducing
conflicting movements at the top of the new stairs (or are they
escalators) from the Picc platforms. (Most regulars will use the
shorter route regardless though.)

--
Peter Lawrence

On 15 Oct, 21:54, lonelytraveller
wrote:
I've had another look at that diagram of the new tunnels, and it seems
the new tunnel is the n-shaped one at the far end, not the one across
the middle. It seems a bit strange to dig a completely new tunnel that
you are going to abandon in a couple of years - will it have any
purpose when the new entrance opens?

I went on a quick visit to the station today, and I've drawn a sketch
of where it is:
http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...ngs-cross.html

(Which diagram are you referring to? None I have show it)

U

--
http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

On 17 Oct, 23:04, Mr Thant
wrote:
On 15 Oct, 21:54, lonelytraveller

wrote:
I've had another look at that diagram of the new tunnels, and it seems
the new tunnel is the n-shaped one at the far end, not the one across
the middle. It seems a bit strange to dig a completely new tunnel that
you are going to abandon in a couple of years - will it have any
purpose when the new entrance opens?

I went on a quick visit to the station today, and I've drawn a sketch
of where it is:http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...-tunnel-opens-...

(Which diagram are you referring to? None I have show it)
The 3D diagram that used to be plastered over all the hoardings

also this one - http://www.constructionnow.co.uk/Lon...%20Tunnels.jpg

and the one at the end of this PDF -
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...pr07_FINAL.pdf

So, as to the new tunnel - what's it going to be used for when the
Northern ticket hall tunnels open - it seems a bit pointless with them
as well?

On Oct 14, 6:31 pm, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:47:54 GMT, "Robin Mayes"
wrote:



"Stuart" wrote in message
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Peter Lawrence wrote:
I notice that one small part of this project has now happened - there
is now a new, devious, subway from the northern end of the Picc
platforms leading to the existing route to the Vic and TL platforms.
The old subway is closed off. Obviously this has been done to allow
the route from the new ticket hall to the Picc and other platforms to
be constructed but the new subway is part of the final plan.

I noticed this the other day, haven't had a look yet though. I assume the
subway joins the exsisting tunnel further down?

Yes, about 2/3 of the way to the Victoria line.

What is happening to the Thameslink tunnel once Thameslink move in a few
weeks?

LU take over the Pentonville Road entrance and staff it as it is a secondary
means of escape until the Northern ticket hall is opened, at the very
earliest.

I would guess it has a long term future serving local residents and
workers; there will be more of the latter as the area become
regenerated..


I'd rather hope it will stay open: it's the closest entrance to the
tube for me, and the quickest way to the Picc and Vic lines.

Jonn