"Frank Incense" wrote in message
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"Mr Thant" wrote in message
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On 1 Nov, 20:48, Mizter T wrote:
Wonder if any of the Central line drivers might like to try doing
this?!

I read a story online somewhere (can't find it now) about a Victoria
Line driver getting out of his train when stuck at a red signal, but
without deactivating the ATO. As soon as the signal cleared, the train
restarted itself, narrowly missing him.

U

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I thought it was in a platform where a door had got stuck and he went to
give it a shove. Did so, and voila the train shot off.
Two different incidents, Vic line train nearly "one-undering" it's own
driver and Picc line train driving itself to (I think) Holloway Road when
the operator hung his bag on the CTBC, got out of the cab at Kings Cross to
kick a passenger door shut and failed to notice that the cab door interlock
had been overridden.
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If a Victoria Line train is stopped between two stations and a signal
clears, wouldn't the train's further movement be contingent on some sort of
positive action from the driver?

Where exactly does the Victoria have wayside signals, by the way,
considering that it is ATO? I assume that they are they only at stations, as
starters, and junctions?

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
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I read a story online somewhere (can't find it now) about a Victoria
Line driver getting out of his train when stuck at a red signal, but
without deactivating the ATO. As soon as the signal cleared, the train
restarted itself, narrowly missing him.

U

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"Boltar" wrote in message
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I've been on the lille one and even on a sunday it was crowded (mind
you , the trains are ridiculously narrow which doesn't help). I really
wouldn't want to be stuck on a broken down one in the rush hour
knowing that there was no one on board who could help.

B2003

That happened to me when I was on the Lille Metro some years ago.

The train came to a sudden stop between stations and stood there for several
minutes. An employee eventually approached the train from the tunnel
rampway, opened the front side door, took control of the train and shunted
it into the next station. The train continued on its merry way afterwards as
I guess something was reset.

On 2 Nov, 23:23, wrote:
If a Victoria Line train is stopped between two stations and a signal
clears, wouldn't the train's further movement be contingent on some sort of
positive action from the driver?

According to this, a 270 code restarts the train automatically, but
not in stations:
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Vi...Line%20ATO.htm

Where exactly does the Victoria have wayside signals, by the way,
considering that it is ATO? I assume that they are they only at stations, as
starters, and junctions?

It doesn't AFAIK. I meant "red signal" figuratively.

U

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In message , Steve
Dulieu writes
Two different incidents, Vic line train nearly "one-undering" it's own
driver and Picc line train driving itself to (I think) Holloway Road
when the operator hung his bag on the CTBC, got out of the cab at Kings
Cross to kick a passenger door shut and failed to notice that the cab
door interlock had been overridden.

I've not heard of the Victoria Line incident. Did not the other
(Piccadilly) driver get prosecuted?

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Boltar wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11...f_on_platform/

ROFL... I was on this train!

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Two different incidents, Vic line train nearly "one-undering" it's own
driver and Picc line train driving itself to (I think) Holloway Road when
the operator hung his bag on the CTBC, got out of the cab at Kings Cross
to kick a passenger door shut and failed to notice that the cab door
interlock had been overridden.
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Is that actually possible, even if he did hang his bag on the CTBC?

Based on what I know about the controllers on 73Ts, I would think that
airbrakes would release after the driver kicked the door shut. But I did not
think that the motors would engage and the train would take off because the
driver would have to move the controller at least two positions to get to
shunt.

How would the train have stopped at Holloway Road anyway, by being tripped
at the starter?

In message , Ian Jelf
writes

Two different incidents, Vic line train nearly "one-undering" it's own
driver and Picc line train driving itself to (I think) Holloway Road
when the operator hung his bag on the CTBC, got out of the cab at
Kings Cross to kick a passenger door shut and failed to notice that
the cab door interlock had been overridden.

I've not heard of the Victoria Line incident. Did not the other
(Piccadilly) driver get prosecuted?

Yes, word at work is that he went to jail for Endangering Passenger's
Safety or somesuch.
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In message ,
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Is that actually possible, even if he did hang his bag on the CTBC?

Used to be before they redesigned the console (a cause of the incident
in question)

Based on what I know about the controllers on 73Ts, I would think that
airbrakes would release after the driver kicked the door shut. But I did not
think that the motors would engage and the train would take off because the
driver would have to move the controller at least two positions to get to
shunt.

The TBC was left in a motoring position - so it motored!

How would the train have stopped at Holloway Road anyway, by being tripped
at the starter?

Caught up to the train in front and was tripped on the station starter.
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On Nov 4, 5:13 pm, Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote:
In message , Ian Jelf
writes

Two different incidents, Vic line train nearly "one-undering" it's own
driver and Picc line train driving itself to (I think) Holloway Road
when the operator hung his bag on the CTBC, got out of the cab at
Kings Cross to kick a passenger door shut and failed to notice that
the cab door interlock had been overridden.

I've not heard of the Victoria Line incident. Did not the other
(Piccadilly) driver get prosecuted?

Yes, word at work is that he went to jail for Endangering Passenger's
Safety or somesuch.

Seems a bit harsh given that a few years back a northern line train
went backwards when the driver dozed off and AFAIK nothing much
happened to him. That incident would have put the passengers in far
more danger because of the trips not working in reverse than the
piccadilly incident would have.

B2003