On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:50:09 -0800, MIG
wrote:

Incidentally, I note an interim stage in plans for Waterloo to be
increasing platform lengths to 10. With most trains in units of 4,
this isn't going to make much difference.

If it is 10 23m coach-lengths, that'd fit a double IC Desiro, surely?

Neil

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:50:09 -0800, MIG
wrote:

Incidentally, I note an interim stage in plans for Waterloo to be
increasing platform lengths to 10. With most trains in units of 4,
this isn't going to make much difference.

If it is 10 23m coach-lengths, that'd fit a double IC Desiro, surely?


For some reason though platform lengths are normally described in terms of
20m car lengths, so a 10.444 needs a '12 car platform'...

Paul

On Nov 8, 8:03 pm, "Paul Scott"
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:50:09 -0800, MIG
wrote:

Incidentally, I note an interim stage in plans for Waterloo to be
increasing platform lengths to 10. With most trains in units of 4,
this isn't going to make much difference.

If it is 10 23m coach-lengths, that'd fit a double IC Desiro, surely?

For some reason though platform lengths are normally described in terms of
20m car lengths, so a 10.444 needs a '12 car platform'...

This has overtones of the story of the space exploration vehicle lost
because one manufacturer was callibrating in Imperial Measures and
another in metric. Canadian aircraft have run out of jet fuel in mid
Atlantic for the same reason. I do hope that this is checked before we
have another Shepherd's Bush platform snafu.

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On Nov 8, 8:03 pm, "Paul Scott"
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"Neil Williams" wrote in message

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:50:09 -0800, MIG
wrote:

Incidentally, I note an interim stage in plans for Waterloo to be
increasing platform lengths to 10. With most trains in units of 4,
this isn't going to make much difference.

If it is 10 23m coach-lengths, that'd fit a double IC Desiro,
surely?

For some reason though platform lengths are normally described in
terms of 20m car lengths, so a 10.444 needs a '12 car platform'...

This has overtones of the story of the space exploration vehicle lost
because one manufacturer was callibrating in Imperial Measures and
another in metric. Canadian aircraft have run out of jet fuel in mid
Atlantic for the same reason.

Actually, the Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel did so in the
middle of Canada (or it wouldn't have got down safely). It's nicknamed
the Gimli Glider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

The 767 subsequently had a full flying career and was retired last
month.

It was a different Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel over the
Atlantic, for completely different reasons. It had a fuel leak because
of a maintenance error.

Recliner wrote:

Actually, the Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel did so in the
middle of Canada (or it wouldn't have got down safely). It's nicknamed
the Gimli Glider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

Wow, what an amazing story!

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:36:06 -0000, "Recliner"
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This has overtones of the story of the space exploration vehicle lost
because one manufacturer was callibrating in Imperial Measures and
another in metric. Canadian aircraft have run out of jet fuel in mid
Atlantic for the same reason.

Actually, the Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel did so in the
middle of Canada (or it wouldn't have got down safely). It's nicknamed
the Gimli Glider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

The 767 subsequently had a full flying career and was retired last
month.

It was a different Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel over the
Atlantic, for completely different reasons. It had a fuel leak because
of a maintenance error.

....and that one got down safely, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236

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On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:36:06 -0000, "Recliner"
wrote:

"Mwmbwls" wrote in message
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This has overtones of the story of the space exploration vehicle
lost because one manufacturer was callibrating in Imperial Measures
and another in metric. Canadian aircraft have run out of jet fuel
in mid Atlantic for the same reason.

Actually, the Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel did so in the
middle of Canada (or it wouldn't have got down safely). It's
nicknamed the Gimli Glider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

The 767 subsequently had a full flying career and was retired last
month.

It was a different Canadian airliner that ran out of fuel over the
Atlantic, for completely different reasons. It had a fuel leak
because of a maintenance error.

...and that one got down safely, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236

Indeed it did, though it suffered some epic flat spots, as the flap-free
landing was at much higher speeds than usual, so the brakes and wheels
had to absorb far more energy than they were designed for:
http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/image...y/mvc-003f.jpg
http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/image...y/mvc-002f.jpg
http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/image...y/mvc-004f.jpg

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:50:09 -0800, MIG
wrote:

Incidentally, I note an interim stage in plans for Waterloo to be
increasing platform lengths to 10. With most trains in units of 4,
this isn't going to make much difference.

If it is 10 23m coach-lengths, that'd fit a double IC Desiro, surely?

For some reason though platform lengths are normally described in terms
of
20m car lengths, so a 10.444 needs a '12 car platform'...

This has overtones of the story of the space exploration vehicle lost
because one manufacturer was callibrating in Imperial Measures and
another in metric. Canadian aircraft have run out of jet fuel in mid
Atlantic for the same reason. I do hope that this is checked before we
have another Shepherd's Bush platform snafu.


I don't think so - the whole area (SW division of SR) seems to have been
designed for 8 car then some parts for 12 car 20m EMUs. When the 442s came
along they decided upon a 'mainline style' 23m vehicle which would fit the
existing platforms wheen coupled as 2 5 car units. It certainly wasn't
accidental...

The current announcements about platform lengthening are usually about
specific routes and the actual type of stock that runs on, it isn't as
random as you seem to think...

Paul