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Lack of GOBLin connections
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"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message
... wrote: Gospel Oak at least serves LO's own GobLin service, albeit through an awkward subway WB, Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't it? .... Eastbound, unless it's changed recently. -- David Biddulph |
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David Biddulph wrote:
Gospel Oak at least serves LO's own GobLin service, albeit through an awkward subway WB, Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't it? Eastbound, unless it's changed recently. Oops, mea culpa. But certainly a more useful interchange in one direction than a subway from both would be. |
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Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't it? Yes if you're going WB from the GobLin to the NLL, the interchange is awkward via street level, if you're EB it's virtually cross-platform, |
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... Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't it? Yes if you're going WB from the GobLin to the NLL, the interchange is awkward via street level, if you're EB it's virtually cross-platform, So in response to the question which you quoted, I think the answer you intended was "No", rather than "Yes"? -- David Biddulph |
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"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message ... wrote: Gospel Oak at least serves LO's own GobLin service, albeit through an awkward subway WB, Erm the GOBLIN's bay platform is on the westbound NLL platform isn't it? Eastbound (northern). I expect the earlier post intended "through an awkward subway 'from the' WB..." Also the track & platform layout is a mess - it's not possible to have a through service switching between lines that stops at Gospel Oak. Expect if through services off Goblin towards WJ ever happen (and it is in one of the proposals), the bay will be closed and at least one platform moved onto the westbound through line, possibly platforms on both lines... Paul |
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Paul Scott wrote:
Also the track & platform layout is a mess - it's not possible to have a through service switching between lines that stops at Gospel Oak. Expect if through services off Goblin towards WJ ever happen (and it is in one of the proposals), the bay will be closed and at least one platform moved onto the westbound through line, possibly platforms on both lines... Is it viable to make the through NLL platforms the reversing point for GOBLIN trains? Whilst I can see a through service happening, I'd be sceptical if it were for all services. And do the track connections actually allow the GOBLIN to switch to the NLL east of the platforms? My recollection is that they don't physically connect at all on that side. |
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Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Paul Scott wrote: Also the track & platform layout is a mess - it's not possible to have a through service switching between lines that stops at Gospel Oak. Expect if through services off Goblin towards WJ ever happen (and it is in one of the proposals), the bay will be closed and at least one platform moved onto the westbound through line, possibly platforms on both lines... Is it viable to make the through NLL platforms the reversing point for GOBLIN trains? Whilst I can see a through service happening, I'd be sceptical if it were for all services. It would require new viaduct and the desecration of an industrial yard, for very little benefit, especially since Gospel Oak is the middle of nowhere. Making the current bay platform a bidirectional through platform (for Goblin passenger trains only) doesn't look hard form this photo... http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...e=-1&encType=1 That would allow some Goblins to terminate here and some to serve Gospel Oak on their way to or from Clapham Junction etc. |
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"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message ... Paul Scott wrote: Also the track & platform layout is a mess - it's not possible to have a through service switching between lines that stops at Gospel Oak. Expect if through services off Goblin towards WJ ever happen (and it is in one of the proposals), the bay will be closed and at least one platform moved onto the westbound through line, possibly platforms on both lines... Is it viable to make the through NLL platforms the reversing point for GOBLIN trains? Whilst I can see a through service happening, I'd be sceptical if it were for all services. And do the track connections actually allow the GOBLIN to switch to the NLL east of the platforms? My recollection is that they don't physically connect at all on that side. Don't forget the NLL platforms are curving round to the south as the NLL leaves Gospel Oak eastbound, there woul be significant new track & embankment works to get over from the Goblin and line up with the NLL with a reasonable curve. It would also add two more unnecessary flat junctions in the area, which is a bit of a negative when trying to increase passenger frequencies while allowing for existing freight. Two new platforms is probably the easiest solution really, and Google Earth seems to show bags of room for them... Paul |
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