I thought people here might be interested in the diagram I've made of
King's Cross and St Pancras, showing the passageways and routes around
the whole complex in the style of the tube map (I know a proper
floorplan would have been much more useful, but that turned out to be
way too hard). Links and a bit more explanation are on my blog:

http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...s-novelty.html
U

On 7 Dec, 13:34, Mr Thant
wrote:
I thought people here might be interested in the diagram I've made of
King's Cross and St Pancras, showing the passageways and routes around
the whole complex in the style of the tube map (I know a proper
floorplan would have been much more useful, but that turned out to be
way too hard). Links and a bit more explanation are on my blog:

http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...ss-st-pancras-...
U

In the main its very good - I note your sense of humour extends to
including platform 9 3/4 but doesn't go as far as listing Grand
Central as an operator out of KX!! :-)

Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
nearer Euston Road)? I'm sure I saw that on a diagram somewhere -
showing that the Thameslink tunnel actually passes under the Midland
Main Line before the new station. Can anyone confirm that?

Tony

(who will be the first to do one of those 3D maps of the site??)

wrote:

Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
nearer Euston Road)?

That is correct.

In message , at 13:59:54 on
Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider remarked:
wrote:
Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
nearer Euston Road)?

That is correct.

And it's at a slight angle to the side of StPancras (turned clockwise).

Meanwhile, is there really going to be an exit for KX platforms 9-11
halfway along the passage to the Northern ticket hall?

I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will eventually be
the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at the buffer ends.

And what of platform Zero at KX?
--
Roland Perry

On 7 Dec, 15:09, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:59:54 on
Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider remarked:

wrote:
Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
nearer Euston Road)?

That is correct.

And it's at a slight angle to the side of St Pancras (turned clockwise).

Meanwhile, is there really going to be an exit for KX platforms 9-11
halfway along the passage to the Northern ticket hall?

I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will eventually be
the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at the buffer ends.


Really?! That isn't going to be at all popular, having to lug one's
luggage up then down some stairs. Though of course there could be
lifts for each platform, and a ramp at the west side to access the
bridge, so it could be mitigated somewhat. And the main concourse is
going to be on the west side I suppose, so maybe it's not going to be
an issue at all.

Mizter T wrote:
On 7 Dec, 15:09, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:59:54 on
Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider remarked:

wrote:
Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
nearer Euston Road)?
That is correct.
And it's at a slight angle to the side of St Pancras (turned clockwise).

Meanwhile, is there really going to be an exit for KX platforms 9-11
halfway along the passage to the Northern ticket hall?

I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will eventually be
the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at the buffer ends.


Really?! That isn't going to be at all popular, having to lug one's
luggage up then down some stairs. Though of course there could be
lifts for each platform, and a ramp at the west side to access the
bridge, so it could be mitigated somewhat. And the main concourse is
going to be on the west side I suppose, so maybe it's not going to be
an issue at all.

See http://tinyurl.com/q249u - not the first time this page has been
linked to Usenet but appropriate nonetheless.

The PDFs under the following names have very detailed diagrams of the
station post-2011 (there might be others that I haven't checked yet):
PROPOSED 1 - PART 1
PROPOSED 1 - PART 2
PROPOSED 2 - PART 1
PROPOSED 2 - PART 2
PROPOSED 3
DETAILS - PART 1
DETAILS - PART 2
AMENDED DRAWINGS

All PDFs except the last one are dated 24/25 August 2006. The last PDF
is dated 16 Jan 2007.

"Mizter T" wrote in message
...
On 7 Dec, 15:09, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:59:54 on
Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider remarked:

wrote:
Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
nearer Euston Road)?

That is correct.

And it's at a slight angle to the side of St Pancras (turned clockwise).

Meanwhile, is there really going to be an exit for KX platforms 9-11
halfway along the passage to the Northern ticket hall?

I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will eventually be
the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at the buffer ends.


Really?! That isn't going to be at all popular, having to lug one's
luggage up then down some stairs. Though of course there could be
lifts for each platform, and a ramp at the west side to access the
bridge, so it could be mitigated somewhat. And the main concourse is
going to be on the west side I suppose, so maybe it's not going to be
an issue at all.

Its an interpretation that has been highlighted before, but it is definitely
not correct from the evidence available in the various planning documents.
It is correct that the bridge will be one way onto the platforms from the
higher level of the new main concourse, but there will also be two way
traffic onto the southen ends of the platforms as now. This is why the
higher numbered platforms 5-8 are going to be shortened at the buffer end,
to allow more circulation space round to the western concourse.

"The majority of passengers using train services in the main train shed will
move from the new concourse at its southernmost end, through the Western
range and onto platforms from the South."

See: http://tinyurl.com/2rs5l2 section 5.4 for info...

Paul

In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will
eventually be the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at
the buffer ends.

Really?! That isn't going to be at all popular, having to lug one's
luggage up then down some stairs. Though of course there could be
lifts for each platform, and a ramp at the west side to access the
bridge, so it could be mitigated somewhat. And the main concourse is
going to be on the west side I suppose, so maybe it's not going to
be an issue at all.

It's also not what I was told when I asked, concerned about cycle access
to trains. I was firmly told that there will be a platform level access
at the side of platform 8 and shown the plans to that effect. But it does
mean that access to platform 1 (and 0) from the York Way entrance will be
very convoluted.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:59:54 on
Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider remarked:
wrote:
Am I right in thinking that actually the new St Pancras Thameslink
station is actually to the left of the EMT platforms (but slightly
nearer Euston Road)?

That is correct.

And it's at a slight angle to the side of StPancras (turned clockwise).

Meanwhile, is there really going to be an exit for KX platforms 9-11
halfway along the passage to the Northern ticket hall?

I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will eventually be
the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at the buffer ends.

And what of platform Zero at KX?

Platform 0 (or rather Platform Y as it is now called) is going ahead as
planned.

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:

And what of platform Zero at KX?

Platform 0 (or rather Platform Y as it is now called) is going ahead as
planned.

Just don't ask about Platform X.

Really, don't ask.

tom

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Suddenly, everything is clear ...