In article ,
alex_t wrote:

Walk from Stratford? It's thought that the Camden Town vandels
walked from East Finchley or Golders Green.

That's crazy!

I do not pretend to understand this particular brand of idiocy.

What if the train would pass? I mean, there is
absolutely no hiding place in tube tunnels, isn't it?

'Twas the night before Christmas, when all thro' the tube, [1]
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse;
The carriages where parked in the sidings with care,
In hopes that no vandals would ever be there;
The drivers were nestled all snug in there beds,
While visions of Tripcocks danced in their heads.

(etc, etc, etc).

[1] Christmas day is more likely.


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In message , Nicholas
writes

...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided
to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently
had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and
hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very
crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall.

Earl's Court District Line platforms have also been hit.

Any others?

Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now
how did they get in there?
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On Dec 26, 10:31 pm, "Paul Scott"
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In article
,
alex_t wrote:

...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided
to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s)
evidently
had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and
hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very
crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall.

How did they even get inside? :-(

Walk from Stratford? It's thought that the Camden Town vandels
walked from East Finchley or Golders Green.

Thanks, I was trying to recall the site of last years similar incident.
Thought here at the time to be a bit of an embarrasment for LU, given the
huge amount of CCTV installed everywhere.

I wonder if or why they thought it wouldn't happen again...

The graffiti incident earlier this year, which ended terminally for two
people involved, was at Barking depot:

That was on the working railway though - on Christmas day last year, with
the network shut down, the offenders walked down the tunnels, which seems to
have been the m.o. on this occasion too...

Is the traction current off during the shut down period?

Paul S

Traction Current is switched off at close of traffic each day. Unless
required for engineering works or sleet working. Trains (battery/
diesel) cannot run without Traction Current being on, unless in a
Specified Area.

On Dec 26, 9:08*am, Paul G wrote:
...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided
to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently
had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and
hoardings on the platforms. *I didn't bother venturing off the very
crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall.

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on
December 25, 1957?

Adrian

On 27 Dec, 00:18, Adrian wrote:
On Dec 26, 9:08 am, Paul G wrote:

...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided
to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently
had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and
hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very
crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall.

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on
December 25, 1957?

Adrian

I don't know if that specific type of incident would have happened,
but I've a cutting from The Times, dated May 30 1960, and headed "Wave
of Hooliganism Sweeps British Railways".

It mentions units at Victoria with smashed windows and damaged seats,
fittings missing and door locks unscrewed. The Southern Region were
operating a special squad of 50 men who worked every Sunday to repair
units ready for Monday. It reports 5472 separate items of deliberate
damage during the preceding month.

It also says that: "The Midland Region said that ceilings, walls and
draught strips had been damaged on new stock for the Manchester - Bury
electric trains. Window sealings had been ripped out, transfers
removed from windows, mirrors broken, maps damaged, and seats ruined
within a few weeks".

And if you go to the Railways Archive, you can read the report into
the accident at Smedley Viaduct, Manchester, in 1959. It was caused
by vandals interfering with signalling equipment, and some of the
comments are worth reading:

http://tinyurl.com/32xfgp

It's a problem that's been around for a long time.

Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , Nicholas
writes

...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London
decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station.

Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how
did they get in there?

York Road?

On Dec 26, 4:55*pm, wrote:
On 27 Dec, 00:18, Adrian wrote:





On Dec 26, 9:08 am, Paul G wrote:

...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided
to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently
had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and
hoardings on the platforms. *I didn't bother venturing off the very
crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall.

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on
December 25, 1957?

Adrian

I don't know if that specific type of incident would have happened,
but I've a cutting from The Times, dated May 30 1960, and headed "Wave
of Hooliganism Sweeps British Railways".

It mentions units at Victoria with smashed windows and damaged seats,
fittings missing and door locks unscrewed. *The Southern Region were
operating a special squad of 50 men who worked every Sunday to repair
units ready for Monday. *It reports 5472 separate items of deliberate
damage during the preceding month.

It also says that: "The Midland Region said that ceilings, walls and
draught strips had been damaged on new stock for the Manchester - Bury
electric trains. *Window sealings had been ripped out, transfers
removed from windows, mirrors broken, maps damaged, and seats ruined
within a few weeks".

And if you go to the Railways Archive, you can read the report into
the accident at Smedley Viaduct, Manchester, in 1959. *It was caused
by vandals interfering with signalling equipment, and some of the
comments are worth reading:

http://tinyurl.com/32xfgp

It's a problem that's been around for a long time.

Thank you. That pretty much answers the question.

Adrian

"Adrian" wrote in message

On Dec 26, 9:08 am, Paul G wrote:
...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London
decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti
artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on
most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother
venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the
booking hall.

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on
December 25, 1957?

Presumably modern graffiti relies on spray paint cans that weren't yet
invented in 1957.

In article ,
Recliner wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message

On Dec 26, 9:08 am, Paul G wrote:
...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London
decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti
artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on
most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother
venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the
booking hall.

Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on
December 25, 1957?

Presumably modern graffiti relies on spray paint cans that weren't yet
invented in 1957.


Quite. In earlier days it had to be brush-painted: there are some fine
examples of early 1960s brush-painted slogans around here

http://www.startadsl.hu/malex/Tryweryn.htm

though as it's now something of a treasured monument it's best regarded as
"heavily restored".

In earlier days still chalking and pasting up block-print posters were the
facoured methods - those and carving initials into brick and stonework. A
local preserved railway has some examples of this sort of vandalism dating
back to the 1870s...

--
Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth

"Who dies with the most toys wins" (Gary Barnes)

Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on
December 25, 1957?

Well, considering that there were X-mas services back then - I believe
it would have less chance to happen.