On 2 Jan, 23:03, Mizter T wrote:
Ken Livingstone has taken a keen interest in public transport for a
very long time, and I'm quite sure he has an incredible amount of
knowledge about the issues at play.

No. The man can't even on his own come up with arguments in favour of
Bendy Buses.


The idea that Ken personally devises transport schemes such as the
East London Line extension, is absurd - but he does champion various
schemes, and makes them happen (the transfer of the old Silverlink
Metro routes to London Overground being an example).

What Ken and various others frequently do is impose a model on the
transport industry which is at best sub-optimal, or at worst
unworkable.


Plus I'm in no
doubt whatsoever that the ELLX *will be a great success.

LOL! It may well turn out to be so, but there are a *lot* of issues to
be resolved before that stage is reached, and a lot of money to be
spent (wasted) in doing so.

(And, as an aside, I hope the commuters of Forest Hill appreciate
their nice new 4-car non-express trains to the Kingsland Road, taking
up paths which could be used for 8-car trains to London Bridge).


In the end of course if you don't like Livingstone then you can vote
him out.

No, I can't. Fortunately, I don't live within Greater London, so don't
have to tolerate his incompetence, along with most of the other
unpleasant things sadly associated with London.

BRB Class 465 wrote:
On 2 Jan, 23:03, Mizter T wrote:
Plus I'm in no
doubt whatsoever that the ELLX will be a great success.

LOL! It may well turn out to be so, but there are a *lot* of issues to
be resolved before that stage is reached, and a lot of money to be
spent (wasted) in doing so.

(And, as an aside, I hope the commuters of Forest Hill appreciate
their nice new 4-car non-express trains to the Kingsland Road, taking
up paths which could be used for 8-car trains to London Bridge).

As a Brockley commuter I will certainly appreciate them. If we actually
got 8tph x 8-cars to London Bridge then I might be bothered, but in the
evening peak we only get 4tph!

On 2 Jan, 23:15, BRB Class 465 wrote:
On 2 Jan, 23:03, Mizter T wrote:

Ken Livingstone has taken a keen interest in public transport for a
very long time, and I'm quite sure he has an incredible amount of
knowledge about the issues at play.

No. The man can't even on his own come up with arguments in favour of
Bendy Buses.

? He has.


The idea that Ken personally devises transport schemes such as the
East London Line extension, is absurd - but he does champion various
schemes, and makes them happen (the transfer of the old Silverlink
Metro routes to London Overground being an example).

What Ken and various others frequently do is impose a model on the
transport industry which is at best sub-optimal, or at worst
unworkable.

Please elaborate, I don't know what you're trying to say.


Plus I'm in no
doubt whatsoever that the ELLX will be a great success.

LOL! It may well turn out to be so, but there are a *lot* of issues to
be resolved before that stage is reached, and a lot of money to be
spent (wasted) in doing so.

Really - like what issues?


(And, as an aside, I hope the commuters of Forest Hill appreciate
their nice new 4-car non-express trains to the Kingsland Road, taking
up paths which could be used for 8-car trains to London Bridge).

The plans at present are for there to be a slight reduction in the
number of trains going to London Bridge. I don't think this is
anything like the issue that some have claimed it will be.


In the end of course if you don't like Livingstone then you can vote
him out.

No, I can't. Fortunately, I don't live within Greater London, so don't
have to tolerate his incompetence, along with most of the other
unpleasant things sadly associated with London.

Well that's OK then. You do realise what newsgroup you're posting on?

Mizter T wrote:

No, I can't. Fortunately, I don't live within Greater London, so don't
have to tolerate his incompetence, along with most of the other
unpleasant things sadly associated with London.

Well that's OK then. You do realise what newsgroup you're posting on?

Transport in London isn't exclusively used by people who can vote for the
Mayor and Talking Shop. One of the fundamental problems of local government
is that the franchise is based on residency and so people who comute from
outside the formal boundaries do not get a democratic say in how the
services are run despite contributing heavily to the life of an area. The
City (where there is some remedy to this problem) could, of course, threaten
a run on the pound but it's a wee bit drastic a measure.