Personally, I wouldn't mind if motorcyclists were allowed to use bus lanes.
Motorcyclists rarely cause me any bother, and I'd rather more people used
motorbikes rather than cars.

But I don't believe any *sensible* motorcyclist need be at more risk if they
do not use bus lanes.

Hard luck. It's not my fault, so don't be rude to me please (by posting
offensive messages aimed at *all* cyclists). No one surveyed me.

~PB

On Feb 3, 12:19 am, "Pete Biggs"
p...@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs .tc wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't mind if motorcyclists were allowed to use bus lanes.
Motorcyclists rarely cause me any bother, and I'd rather more people used
motorbikes rather than cars.

But I don't believe any *sensible* motorcyclist need be at more risk if they
do not use bus lanes.

Hard luck. It's not my fault, so don't be rude to me please (by posting
offensive messages aimed at *all* cyclists). No one surveyed me.

As above, I wasn't trying to be rude to reasonable cyclists, and I
tried to make that clear. I apologise if I didn't. Would you not
agree with me that the militant cyclists who hate all other forms of
private transport (and care about that more than saving lives) are
tarnishing the reputation of you and other reasonable cyclists?

Nuxx Bar wrote:
On Feb 3, 12:19 am, "Pete Biggs"
p...@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs .tc wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't mind if motorcyclists were allowed to use bus lanes.
Motorcyclists rarely cause me any bother, and I'd rather more people used
motorbikes rather than cars.

But I don't believe any *sensible* motorcyclist need be at more risk if they
do not use bus lanes.

Hard luck. It's not my fault, so don't be rude to me please (by posting
offensive messages aimed at *all* cyclists). No one surveyed me.

As above, I wasn't trying to be rude to reasonable cyclists, and I
tried to make that clear. I apologise if I didn't. Would you not
agree with me that the militant cyclists who hate all other forms of
private transport (and care about that more than saving lives) are
tarnishing the reputation of you and other reasonable cyclists?

Divide and rule, eh?

I think militant cyclist make drivers more aware of cyclists which makes
us all safer.

On 3 Feb, 15:33, Nick wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote:
On Feb 3, 12:19 am, "Pete Biggs"
p...@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs .tc wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't mind if motorcyclists were allowed to use bus lanes.
Motorcyclists rarely cause me any bother, and I'd rather more people used
motorbikes rather than cars.

But I don't believe any *sensible* motorcyclist need be at more risk if they
do not use bus lanes.

Hard luck. *It's not my fault, so don't be rude to me please (by posting
offensive messages aimed at *all* cyclists). *No one surveyed me.

As above, I wasn't trying to be rude to reasonable cyclists, and I
tried to make that clear. *I apologise if I didn't. *Would you not
agree with me that the militant cyclists who hate all other forms of
private transport (and care about that more than saving lives) are
tarnishing the reputation of you and other reasonable cyclists?

Divide and rule, eh?

I think militant cyclist make drivers more aware of cyclists which makes
us all safer.- Hide quoted text -

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You don't get it.
Militant cyclist **** people off and turn all cyclists into objects of
hate

"Sir Jeremy" wrote in message
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On 3 Feb, 15:33, Nick wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote:
On Feb 3, 12:19 am, "Pete Biggs"
p...@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs .tc wrote:

I think militant cyclist make drivers more aware of cyclists which makes
us all safer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't get it.

Militant cyclist **** people off and turn all cyclists into objects of
hate

Which says much more about you than the cyclists you hate.

On Feb 3, 10:14 pm, "burtthebike"
wrote:
"Sir Jeremy" wrote in message

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On 3 Feb, 15:33, Nick wrote:

Nuxx Bar wrote:
On Feb 3, 12:19 am, "Pete Biggs"
p...@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs .tc wrote:

I think militant cyclist make drivers more aware of cyclists which makes
us all safer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't get it.

Militant cyclist **** people off and turn all cyclists into objects of
hate

Which says much more about you than the cyclists you hate.

But it's not just him, it's lots of people. It's human nature to an
extent. Rather than telling people that they shouldn't react in such
a way to militant cyclists, wouldn't it be easier just to get rid of
the militant cyclists (who are after all in the minority)? They don't
help anyone, even other cyclists; they just cause danger, irritation
and resentment all round. It seems obvious to me that the best
solution is to nip the militancy in the bud. That way we're dealing
with the cause (the militant cyclists) rather than one of the many
symptoms (the way that some people react to them). Surely the only
people who would object to such a strategy are the militants
themselves, and their misguided supporters. You can oppose the
militants and still be every bit a "proper cyclist"; in fact, by
opposing the militants, you are helping rather than betraying your
fellow cyclists.

And please learn to quote properly. It's not that difficult.

On 3 Feb, 22:14, "burtthebike" wrote:
"Sir Jeremy" wrote in message

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On 3 Feb, 15:33, Nick wrote:

Nuxx Bar wrote:
On Feb 3, 12:19 am, "Pete Biggs"
p...@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs .tc wrote:

I think militant cyclist make drivers more aware of cyclists which makes
us all safer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't get it.

Militant cyclist **** people off and turn all cyclists into objects of
hate

Which says much more about you than the cyclists you hate.


Its the militant internet warriors I hate, I've no problems in the
real world, but I don't live in London and haven't personally
encountered the motorist hating "critical mass". I like watching RLJ,
I live in hope of seeing one hit by a car.

Sir Jeremy wrote:
On 3 Feb, 15:33, Nick wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote:

You don't get it.
Militant cyclist **** people off and turn all cyclists into objects of
hate

Yes they may have that effect on some people.

But they make drivers think about cyclists more and hence be more aware
of cyclists on the road. The risk of being deliberately killed by a
psychopath is a lot less than the risk of being killed by someone trying
to ignore me.

I have no doubt that cars in central London are more aware of cyclists
and take more care to avoid collisions than drivers in the suburbs.
This also coincides with the militancy of the cyclists.

Essentially people may resent other people asserting their rights but
they tend to respect them more in future. Where as they will show no
respect for wimps.

I'm sure many of them such as yourself like to indulge in a bit of
ineffectual whining, but who cares?

Every single study shows that more cyclists on the roads results in
fewer cyclist/vehicle accidents. Since allowing PTW's in bus lanes
acts as a disincentive to cycling, it should be opposed.

"spindrift" wrote in message
...
Every single study shows that more cyclists on the roads results in
fewer cyclist/vehicle accidents. Since allowing PTW's in bus lanes
acts as a disincentive to cycling, it should be opposed.


Why, they're still bikes.