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The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.

http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)

This is about 07:25 (I arrived on the 07:01 from Watford Junction) so
this isn't the peak of the rush hour. Later trains you cannot get a seat
at Watford Junction unless you're lucky, let alone Harrow and
Wealdstone.

I'm approximately at the back of the crowd, there aren't that many
people behind me. But a fair few must have already gone through the
barrier before I got there because I sit at the extreme Northern end of
the train and unfold my bike before I walk down the platform.

Tim.

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On Feb 26, 10:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:
The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.

http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)

This is about 07:25 (I arrived on the 07:01 from Watford Junction) so
this isn't the peak of the rush hour. Later trains you cannot get a seat
at Watford Junction unless you're lucky, let alone Harrow and
Wealdstone.

I'm approximately at the back of the crowd, there aren't that many
people behind me. But a fair few must have already gone through the
barrier before I got there because I sit at the extreme Northern end of
the train and unfold my bike before I walk down the platform.


Was it like this a year ago?
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On Feb 26, 11:42 pm, Offramp wrote:
On Feb 26, 10:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:



The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.


http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)


This is about 07:25 (I arrived on the 07:01 from Watford Junction) so
this isn't the peak of the rush hour. Later trains you cannot get a seat
at Watford Junction unless you're lucky, let alone Harrow and
Wealdstone.


I'm approximately at the back of the crowd, there aren't that many
people behind me. But a fair few must have already gone through the
barrier before I got there because I sit at the extreme Northern end of
the train and unfold my bike before I walk down the platform.


Was it like this a year ago?


Don't know. A year ago I was regularly going swimming and came in on
the 06:27 from Watford and there's no problem of crowding at Euston.
One of these days I'll give up my extra half hour in bed and start
going swimming again.

There's another train that arrives at approximately the same time.
Today it arrived just as I was getting to the barrier. I suspect
yesterday it arrived before my train so I think that's two train loads
of people you can see. Certainly when it's just my train it's not
usually that bad by the time I've got down to that end of the
platform.

Tim.
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On 27 Feb, 09:34, " wrote:
On Feb 26, 11:42 pm, Offramp wrote:





On Feb 26, 10:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:


The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.


http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)


This is about 07:25 (I arrived on the 07:01 from Watford Junction) so
this isn't the peak of the rush hour. Later trains you cannot get a seat
at Watford Junction unless you're lucky, let alone Harrow and
Wealdstone.


I'm approximately at the back of the crowd, there aren't that many
people behind me. But a fair few must have already gone through the
barrier before I got there because I sit at the extreme Northern end of
the train and unfold my bike before I walk down the platform.


Was it like this a year ago?


Don't know. A year ago I was regularly going swimming and came in on
the 06:27 from Watford and there's no problem of crowding at Euston.
One of these days I'll give up my extra half hour in bed and start
going swimming again.

There's another train that arrives at approximately the same time.
Today it arrived just as I was getting to the barrier. I suspect
yesterday it arrived before my train so I think that's two train loads
of people you can see. Certainly when it's just my train it's not
usually that bad by the time I've got down to that end of the
platform.


Cannon Street has gone from one of the worst to one of the best
arrangements. I actually complained a few years ago, because they had
about twenty staff blocking the exit from the narrow platform 1 - 2
doing ticket checks, and two trains arrived in succession. It took me
five minutes to get through, despite being in the front coach, and it
was very scary with about a thousand people crowding behind me. I
thought that the checkers should have shown discretion and seen that
they were creating a hazard.

Now, there is an area that people from several platforms can spill out
into before going through the barriers, so it doesn't matter which
platform the crowd arrives at at any given time.

The trouble with those platforms at Euston is that there is no
physical room to open it out.
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On Feb 26, 10:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:
The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.

http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)

This is about 07:25 (I arrived on the 07:01 from Watford Junction) so
this isn't the peak of the rush hour. Later trains you cannot get a seat
at Watford Junction unless you're lucky, let alone Harrow and
Wealdstone.

I'm approximately at the back of the crowd, there aren't that many
people behind me. But a fair few must have already gone through the
barrier before I got there because I sit at the extreme Northern end of
the train and unfold my bike before I walk down the platform.

Tim.

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God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = - @B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t,"
and there was light.

http://tjw.hn.org/ http://www.locofungus.btinternet.co.uk/




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On Feb 26, 10:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:
The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.


I've not been stuck as far back as you seem to be -- most of the
trains I get from LBZ to EUS in peak are fast ones, arrive outside of
the locals, or I get off at Harrow (which is hard work), but last time
I took a train (packed 09:40 arriving c.10:10 into Euston, first
offpeak from MKC and north I believe), it took me 5 minutes to get
from the back of the train to the waiting overground ~10:17 departure
for stations north on platform 9.

http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)


What camera?

/me just been shaken by an earthquake. In Bedfordshire. Shocking.
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On 27 Feb, 01:05, Paul Weaver wrote:
On Feb 26, 10:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:

The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.


I've not been stuck as far back as you seem to be -- most of the
trains I get from LBZ to EUS in peak are fast ones, arrive outside of
the locals, or I get off at Harrow (which is hard work), but last time
I took a train (packed 09:40 arriving c.10:10 into Euston, first
offpeak from MKC and north I believe), it took me 5 minutes to get
from the back of the train to the waiting overground ~10:17 departure
for stations north on platform 9.

http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)


What camera?


Mr Woodall appears to have a nifty video camera attached to his bike.
I don't know whether it is intended for the purpose of capturing
evidence of bad driving, but it certainly has in one particular
instance that Tim relays to the uk.rec.cycling newsgroup (UIVMM the
incident occurs on Pentonville Road travelling east down towards the
Angel) - see the thread here (includes a link to the recording):

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....2d14a1efec30e/



/me just been shaken by an earthquake. In Bedfordshire. Shocking.


But in London I felt nothing! I was however in a car when it was
supposed to have happened, we were a bit perplexed when suddenly at a
quarter past one we started to hear reports of this tremor on the
radio. We may have been a little distracted around the time of the
tremor by an inebriated gentleman who's bus hailing technique was that
of standing in the middle of the road nowhere near a bus stop
gesticulating wildly whilst the bus swerved around him. That said, I
would suggest that in London at least it is fairly easy to drop one's
guard and become distracted from watching/listening/feeling out for an
earthquake. But from now on I'll be on full alert, those pesky tremors
won't catch me unawares!

A distinctly and disappointingly unshaken Mizter T!
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On Feb 27, 2:00 am, Mizter T wrote:
On 27 Feb, 01:05, Paul Weaver wrote:



On Feb 26, 10:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:


The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.


I've not been stuck as far back as you seem to be -- most of the
trains I get from LBZ to EUS in peak are fast ones, arrive outside of
the locals, or I get off at Harrow (which is hard work), but last time
I took a train (packed 09:40 arriving c.10:10 into Euston, first
offpeak from MKC and north I believe), it took me 5 minutes to get
from the back of the train to the waiting overground ~10:17 departure
for stations north on platform 9.


http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)


What camera?


Mr Woodall appears to have a nifty video camera attached to his bike.
I don't know whether it is intended for the purpose of capturing
evidence of bad driving, but it certainly has in one particular
instance that Tim relays to the uk.rec.cycling newsgroup (UIVMM the
incident occurs on Pentonville Road travelling east down towards the
Angel) - see the thread here (includes a link to the recording):

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....frm/thread/ee4...



/me just been shaken by an earthquake. In Bedfordshire. Shocking.


But in London I felt nothing! I was however in a car when it was
supposed to have happened, we were a bit perplexed when suddenly at a
quarter past one we started to hear reports of this tremor on the
radio. We may have been a little distracted around the time of the
tremor by an inebriated gentleman who's bus hailing technique was that
of standing in the middle of the road nowhere near a bus stop
gesticulating wildly whilst the bus swerved around him. That said, I
would suggest that in London at least it is fairly easy to drop one's
guard and become distracted from watching/listening/feeling out for an
earthquake. But from now on I'll be on full alert, those pesky tremors
won't catch me unawares!

A distinctly and disappointingly unshaken Mizter T!


I followed the link but I couldn't see anything about an earthquake. I
saw a video of a road, though.
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On Feb 27, 7:15 am, Offramp wrote:
On Feb 27, 2:00 am, Mizter T wrote:



On 27 Feb, 01:05, Paul Weaver wrote:


On Feb 26, 10:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:


The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.


I've not been stuck as far back as you seem to be -- most of the
trains I get from LBZ to EUS in peak are fast ones, arrive outside of
the locals, or I get off at Harrow (which is hard work), but last time
I took a train (packed 09:40 arriving c.10:10 into Euston, first
offpeak from MKC and north I believe), it took me 5 minutes to get
from the back of the train to the waiting overground ~10:17 departure
for stations north on platform 9.


http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)


What camera?


Mr Woodall appears to have a nifty video camera attached to his bike.
I don't know whether it is intended for the purpose of capturing
evidence of bad driving, but it certainly has in one particular
instance that Tim relays to the uk.rec.cycling newsgroup (UIVMM the
incident occurs on Pentonville Road travelling east down towards the
Angel) - see the thread here (includes a link to the recording):


http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....frm/thread/ee4...


/me just been shaken by an earthquake. In Bedfordshire. Shocking.


But in London I felt nothing! I was however in a car when it was
supposed to have happened, we were a bit perplexed when suddenly at a
quarter past one we started to hear reports of this tremor on the
radio. We may have been a little distracted around the time of the
tremor by an inebriated gentleman who's bus hailing technique was that
of standing in the middle of the road nowhere near a bus stop
gesticulating wildly whilst the bus swerved around him. That said, I
would suggest that in London at least it is fairly easy to drop one's
guard and become distracted from watching/listening/feeling out for an
earthquake. But from now on I'll be on full alert, those pesky tremors
won't catch me unawares!


A distinctly and disappointingly unshaken Mizter T!


I followed the link but I couldn't see anything about an earthquake. I
saw a video of a road, though.


Sorry, but that's nothing at all to do with the Earthquake. That's
just an example of my bike camera (and a particularly bad bid of
driving)

Tim.
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On Feb 27, 9:38 am, "
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On Feb 27, 7:15 am, Offramp wrote:



On Feb 27, 2:00 am, Mizter T wrote:


On 27 Feb, 01:05, Paul Weaver wrote:


On Feb 26, 10:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:


The barriers at Euston platforms 8-11 cannot cope with the volume of
people trying to get through them.


I've not been stuck as far back as you seem to be -- most of the
trains I get from LBZ to EUS in peak are fast ones, arrive outside of
the locals, or I get off at Harrow (which is hard work), but last time
I took a train (packed 09:40 arriving c.10:10 into Euston, first
offpeak from MKC and north I believe), it took me 5 minutes to get
from the back of the train to the waiting overground ~10:17 departure
for stations north on platform 9.


http://www.woodall.me.uk/img_00000010.jpeg
is a still from my bike camera (sorry the quality isn't very good but
gives some idea, especially if you already know the layout of these
platforms.)


What camera?


Mr Woodall appears to have a nifty video camera attached to his bike.
I don't know whether it is intended for the purpose of capturing
evidence of bad driving, but it certainly has in one particular
instance that Tim relays to the uk.rec.cycling newsgroup (UIVMM the
incident occurs on Pentonville Road travelling east down towards the
Angel) - see the thread here (includes a link to the recording):


http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....frm/thread/ee4...


/me just been shaken by an earthquake. In Bedfordshire. Shocking.


But in London I felt nothing! I was however in a car when it was
supposed to have happened, we were a bit perplexed when suddenly at a
quarter past one we started to hear reports of this tremor on the
radio. We may have been a little distracted around the time of the
tremor by an inebriated gentleman who's bus hailing technique was that
of standing in the middle of the road nowhere near a bus stop
gesticulating wildly whilst the bus swerved around him. That said, I
would suggest that in London at least it is fairly easy to drop one's
guard and become distracted from watching/listening/feeling out for an
earthquake. But from now on I'll be on full alert, those pesky tremors
won't catch me unawares!


A distinctly and disappointingly unshaken Mizter T!


I followed the link but I couldn't see anything about an earthquake. I
saw a video of a road, though.


Sorry, but that's nothing at all to do with the Earthquake. That's
just an example of my bike camera (and a particularly bad bid of
driving)


Perhaps caused by an earthquake?



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