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DLR Oyster validator
On Mar 8, 7:10 pm, MIG wrote:
On Mar 8, 4:38 pm, Offramp wrote: On Mar 8, 1:46 am, MIG wrote: On Mar 8, 1:16 am, Offramp wrote: You still seem to be convinced that any non-compliance with (nonsensical) ToCs must be fare evasion and that "when asked" implies being caught out somehow. Your argument - and other posters' arguments - is based on the premise that the Cs-o-C are nonsensical. Imagine that a man is checked on a train between Bank and London Bridge. He has a zone 1 and 2 weekly. The Inspector sees that he has not touched in. The man says that he has travelled from Prince Regent, but the Inspector checks the man's address and he in fact lives at Finchley Central, and is registered there. In fact he lives on Station Road, the very side where there are no gates! The travel history shows touching validators only at London Bridge. How does the man prove where he has travelled from in order to avoid a PFN or prosecution? He doesn't have to, any more than he would need to if his travelcard was on paper or if he had travelled on NR. Green light, no address check, everyone happy. Inspectors don't just look for a green light - they are also looking for where the Oyster was last used (among other things). An inspector would ask if there was no station of ingress shown and may well ask for an address if he thinks fare evasion has taken place. By your logic, why not just arrest everyone in the world on the grounds that they can't prove that they didn't travel from Finchley Central without a valid ticket? None of them could prove it. There is no need to arrest everyone in the world, and I don't quite see how my logic and the logic of the conditions of carriage could be stretched to being a demand to arrest everyone in the world. What the Cs-of-C ask for is that everyone with an Oyster has to touch in where there are validators. It is in the section under 'Season tickets'. That way, our hypothetical man who travels from Finchley Central every day with a zones 1 & 2 weekly, but who says he has travelled from Prince Regent, can have his penalty fare. I know that you will reply again saying that the Conditions of Carriage are nonsensical and that everyone is happy, but those are things for you to take up with Tfl's legal department. All I have done is point out the relevant section and given at least one good reason why that section would be there. |
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