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The Oyster pads that were retrofitted to the ticket machines on the
Euston - Watford line have at last been activated. They act similarly
to the new machines fitted on the North London Line as they accept
card topups in multiples of 10p, but do not accept Solo or Electron.
Wembley Central to Wembley Stadium is now an out-of-barrier
interchange.
Platforms 4 to 6 at Wembley Central still lack Oyster validators.

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On Mar 2, 12:27*am, Matthew Dickinson
wrote:
The Oyster pads that were retrofitted to the ticket machines on the
Euston - Watford line have at last been activated. They act similarly
to the new machines fitted on the North London Line as they accept
card topups in multiples of 10p, but do not accept Solo or Electron.
Wembley Central to Wembley Stadium is now an out-of-barrier
interchange.
Platforms 4 to 6 at Wembley Central still lack Oyster validators.


I wonder why they can't use a similar system to add Oyster
functionality to the (superficially similar) Tramlink and DLR ticket
machines? It seems a massive oversight. Or perhaps it's just because
London Overground is TfL's toy of the month...
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On 4 Mar, 18:58, Rupert Candy wrote:
I wonder why they can't use a similar system to add Oyster
functionality to the (superficially similar) Tramlink and DLR ticket
machines? It seems a massive oversight. Or perhaps it's just because
London Overground is TfL's toy of the month...


It's worth it for the manufacturers of NR ticket machines to come up
with an Oyster solution, because it'll eventually be needed across the
network. The DLR ticket machines are a fairly unique and quite elderly
design, and I doubt TfL is willing to fund its further development.
Never seen a Tramlink ticket machine.

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On 4 Mar, 19:26, Mr Thant
wrote:

On 4 Mar, 18:58, Rupert Candy wrote:

I wonder why they can't use a similar system to add Oyster
functionality to the (superficially similar) Tramlink and DLR ticket
machines? It seems a massive oversight. Or perhaps it's just because
London Overground is TfL's toy of the month...


It's worth it for the manufacturers of NR ticket machines to come up
with an Oyster solution, because it'll eventually be needed across the
network. The DLR ticket machines are a fairly unique and quite elderly
design, and I doubt TfL is willing to fund its further development.
Never seen a Tramlink ticket machine.


DLR ticket machines aren't that unique - the Tramlink ones are of the
exact same design!

On this page is a DLR ticket machine (courtesy of TfL's Transport
School!)...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3ym74z

....and, thanks to the sadly departed Mr Parascandolo, are some photos
of Tramlink ticket machines on his website that has been kept up and
running (scroll down on both pages - the second page shows a shot of
the menu screen, which is much the same as the DLR)...

http://www.tramlink.co.uk/info/gen/tickets.shtml
http://www.croydon-tramlink.co.uk/in...thistory.shtml

(You can buy a 7-day bus pass from the Tramlink machines, which I have
indeed done a couple of times in the past - it comes on standard green
Tramlink ticket stock and it stumped a couple of bus drivers!).

It would be really useful if the DLR machines did do Oyster - I was a
bit stumped the the other day with a friend who needed to top up their
Oyster card before catching the DLR at Shadwell - the nearest place we
could find was on Commercial Road.
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DLR ticket machines aren't that unique - the Tramlink ones are of the
exact same design!


Indeed so, as are most of the ticket machines on the Paris Metro -
which have recently been adapted with smartcard readers for the Navigo
card. So it can be done!

It would be really useful if the DLR machines did do Oyster - I was a
bit stumped the the other day with a friend who needed to top up their
Oyster card before catching the DLR at Shadwell - the nearest place we
could find was on Commercial Road.


It does seem a massive oversight to me, when TfL is trying so hard to
promote Oyster as a replacement for all paper-based tickets (which it
blatantly isn't, at least not yet!)


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On 4 Mar, 23:25, Rupert Candy wrote:

DLR ticket machines aren't that unique - the Tramlink ones are of the
exact same design!


Indeed so, as are most of the ticket machines on the Paris Metro -
which have recently been adapted with smartcard readers for the Navigo
card. So it can be done!


And indeed it already has been done, hence this thread! The Scheidt &
Bachmann made ticket machines originally installed by Silverlink at
stations on the Watford - Euston line and some stations on the North
London Line have been so modified. The Oyster readers in fact appeared
on them ages ago, around the time of the handover to London
Overground, but as the OP reports they have only just been turned on -
which does suggest there were some glitches which meant they weren't
yet ready to be unleashed for public use (I'm guessing there were
software issues but I don't know so).


It would be really useful if the DLR machines did do Oyster - I was a
bit stumped the the other day with a friend who needed to top up their
Oyster card before catching the DLR at Shadwell - the nearest place we
could find was on Commercial Road.


It does seem a massive oversight to me, when TfL is trying so hard to
promote Oyster as a replacement for all paper-based tickets (which it
blatantly isn't, at least not yet!)



Well, of course Oyster Pay-as-you-go isn't available on most National
Rail services in London - but that's not for the want of TfL and the
Mayor's trying! It will happen in the next few years.

One very useful solution is auto top-up - anytime teh balance on your
Oyster card goes below £5, it gets topped up by either £20 or £40, and
that amount is then debited from your nominated debit or credit card.
It is very handy, it just means you don't have to worry about whether
you've got enough credit, and I would recommend it.
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:25:31 -0800 (PST), Rupert Candy
wrote:

Indeed so, as are most of the ticket machines on the Paris Metro -
which have recently been adapted with smartcard readers for the Navigo
card. So it can be done!


It might be - but the user interface is crap, so perhaps they're
planned for total replacement at some point.

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Rupert Candy wrote:
DLR ticket machines aren't that unique - the Tramlink ones are of the
exact same design!


Indeed so, as are most of the ticket machines on the Paris Metro -
which have recently been adapted with smartcard readers for the Navigo
card. So it can be done!


The ticket machines in Grenoble are so similar to Tramlink, they think
they are in Croydon:
http://www.ajg41.plus.com/images/rai...tramlink02.jpg

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:25:31 -0800 (PST), Rupert Candy
wrote:

Indeed so, as are most of the ticket machines on the Paris Metro -
which have recently been adapted with smartcard readers for the Navigo
card. So it can be done!


It might be - but the user interface is crap, so perhaps they're
planned for total replacement at some point.

Neil

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Is it easy to get a Navigo card these days?



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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:04:52 GMT, wrote:
Is it easy to get a Navigo card these days?


delay

Yes, a "Navigo Découverte" is an unregistered Navigo card that cannot
be cancelled and reissued if lost, etc. You get a shrink-wrapped kit
with the card, a plastic holder for it and a photocard to stick your
picture to. Costs €5 from stations, agents, etc.

Richard.


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