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MIG wrote:
On Apr 14, 4:01 pm, "R.C. Payne" wrote:
Sarah Brown wrote:
In article ,
Abigail Brady wrote:
On Apr 12, 12:00 am, Dave Nesbitt
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One delightful idiosyncrasy is that to get to Sutton direct from
Blackfriars you take a train indicated to Wimbledon, and vice versa.
This is one of these cases where the departure boards at Blackfriars
should probably lie about the destination, by giving 'St Helier via
Sutton' and 'Morden South via Wimbledon' (or whatever pair of stations
works out to be the best advice) as the destinations.
They do something similar with the Cambridge slows at KX, giving
"Foxton" as the destination (last station before Cambridge).

Rather irritatingly, this is not done consistently. I have been at
Kings Cross where a stopper has been advertised as Cambridge, when an
Ely train overtakes it (about a month ago). I don't know how they
determine which trains to advertise as Foxton and which as Cambridge.


This is nothing to the situation at London Bridge where, in the subway
from which you have to select a platform, second and third trains are
advertised simply as "Dartford" plus how many minutes they are
expected in (but not the scheduled departure time).

Given that there are five routes to Dartford covering thirty stations,
and that anyone wanting Dartford itself is usually better off getting
a train that goes beyond Dartford, this must be about the most useless
information ever.


For trains that are simply "Dartford", you're probably only looking at
via Woolwich and Greenwich and via Bexleyheath, as the Sidcup trains
will be Gravesend, and the semi fasts will be Gillingham. What's the
fifth route, BTW (counting Blackheath - Charlton as a separate route for
the fourth)?

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On 15 Apr, 12:01, "R.C. Payne" wrote:
MIG wrote:
On Apr 14, 4:01 pm, "R.C. Payne" wrote:
Sarah Brown wrote:
In article ,
Abigail Brady wrote:
On Apr 12, 12:00 am, Dave Nesbitt
wrote:
One delightful idiosyncrasy is that to get to Sutton direct from
Blackfriars you take a train indicated to Wimbledon, and vice versa.
This is one of these cases where the departure boards at Blackfriars
should probably lie about the destination, by giving 'St Helier via
Sutton' and 'Morden South via Wimbledon' (or whatever pair of stations
works out to be the best advice) as the destinations.
They do something similar with the Cambridge slows at KX, giving
"Foxton" as the destination (last station before Cambridge).
Rather irritatingly, this is not done consistently. *I have been at
Kings Cross where a stopper has been advertised as Cambridge, when an
Ely train overtakes it (about a month ago). *I don't know how they
determine which trains to advertise as Foxton and which as Cambridge.


This is nothing to the situation at London Bridge where, in the subway
from which you have to select a platform, second and third trains are
advertised simply as "Dartford" plus how many minutes they are
expected in (but not the scheduled departure time).


Given that there are five routes to Dartford covering thirty stations,
and that anyone wanting Dartford itself is usually better off getting
a train that goes beyond Dartford, this must be about the most useless
information ever.


For trains that are simply "Dartford", you're probably only looking at
via Woolwich and Greenwich and via Bexleyheath, as the Sidcup trains
will be Gravesend, and the semi fasts will be Gillingham. *What's the
fifth route, BTW (counting Blackheath - Charlton as a separate route for
the fourth)?


That's bad enough anyway, assuming that people have that kind of
knowledge of the different patterns at different times of different
days, but it's not that simple in the rush hour when trains are more
likely to be a few minutes late (and therefore at the same time as
another is scheduled).

The fifth route takes into account Sidcup via Lewisham or not, which
may be only one station, but by far the most used of all of them.


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