What is the best route from Liverpool Street or Tottenham Hale to Turnham
Green, with luggage?

We arrive on Friday 23 May in the evening and leave again Saturday 31 May,
early morning. When should we start from Turnham Green to be at Stansted
Airport at about 0730?

Looking at the tube map, I can at see at least these options:

Tottenham Hale - Victoria - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Holborn - Hammersmith (cross platform) - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Notting Hill Gate - Earl's Court - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Edgware Road - Earl's Court - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Tower Hill - Turnham Green

Is Stansted Express open return tickets + PAYG the cheapest fare?

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jhk

On 26 Apr, 23:01, Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
Tottenham Hale - Victoria - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Holborn - Hammersmith (cross platform) - Turnham Green

Combine the two:
Tottenham Hale, which has a lift down to the tube. The tube entrance
is adjacent to the Stansted-bound platform, so arriving from Stansted
you'll also have a footbridge to cross, but it has an escalator up.
Then:
Finsbury Park (cross platform to Piccadilly)
Hammersmith (cross platform to District)

Is Stansted Express open return tickets + PAYG the cheapest fare?

Probably, especially if you're using PAYG for any other journeys the
same day. There's a Stansted-Tube Zone 2 ticket for £32 return, which
is more expensive than a standard ticket + PAYG, but more convenient
if don't already have Oyster cards.

U

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Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
What is the best route from Liverpool Street or Tottenham Hale to
Turnham Green, with luggage?

Mr Thant's route is pretty good, but see below for other comments.

We arrive on Friday 23 May in the evening and leave again Saturday 31
May, early morning. When should we start from Turnham Green to be at
Stansted Airport at about 0730?

The TfL journey planner at http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk gives journey
times of typically 90 to 100 minutes. Note that all Piccadilly Line trains
call at Turnham Green station before 06:45 (and also after 22:30 in the
evenings).

Looking at the tube map, I can at see at least these options:

Tottenham Hale - Victoria - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Holborn - Hammersmith (cross platform) - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Notting Hill Gate - Earl's Court - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Edgware Road - Earl's Court - Turnham Green
All those routes involve stairs at some point on the journey, in addition to
the stairs down on arrival at Turnham Green.

Liverpool Street - Tower Hill - Turnham Green
This is the simplest option with the minimum of luggage handling, and no
steps until you get to Turnham Green. 'Eastbound' Circle Line to, say,
Monument, then wait on the same platform for a Richmond or Ealing Broadway
train (District Line). If steps are a problem at Turnham Green, you could
leave the train at Hammersmith where there are lifts to street level and a
taxi rank on the Broadway outside the station.

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Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Jarle H Knudsen wrote:

What is the best route from Liverpool Street or Tottenham Hale to Turnham
Green, with luggage?

What does

http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/

have to say about it?

We arrive on Friday 23 May in the evening and leave again Saturday 31 May,
early morning. When should we start from Turnham Green to be at Stansted
Airport at about 0730?

Is that late and early enough that the Piccadilly line is calling at
Turnham Green?

Looking at the tube map, I can at see at least these options:

Tottenham Hale - Victoria - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Holborn - Hammersmith (cross platform) - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Notting Hill Gate - Earl's Court - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Edgware Road - Earl's Court - Turnham Green
Liverpool Street - Tower Hill - Turnham Green

I like the look of Tottenham Hale - Finsbury Park - Turnham Green, since
both the tube-tube changes are cross-platform. If the Picc isn't calling
at Turnham Green at the time, add a change at Hammersmith, also
cross-platform. It's no more changes than any of your routes, and fewer
than some.

Another option with only one non-cross-platform change would be Tottenham
Hale - Stratford - Mile End - Turnham Green. But that's getting a bit
mental. But also so close to being fully cross-platform - if only they'd
built the Temple Mills curve a bit further to the east ...

Is Stansted Express open return tickets + PAYG the cheapest fare?

Probably. I don't think there's any way to get a SX ticket with a
travelcard add-on.

tom

--
The major advances in civilization are processes that all but wreck the
societies in which they occur. -- Alfred North Whitehead

Trying to get to Stansted Airport by 7.30 is just about do-able by
train. Take a Piccadilly from Turnham Green around 5.30ish in the
morning, and you should get to Tottenham Hale about 45 minutes later,
so around 6.15. Waiting and taking the Stansted Express will be
another 45-60 minutes.

In message , at 00:01:26 on
Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Jarle H Knudsen remarked:
What is the best route from Liverpool Street or Tottenham Hale to Turnham
Green, with luggage?

We arrive on Friday 23 May in the evening and leave again Saturday 31 May,
early morning. When should we start from Turnham Green to be at Stansted
Airport at about 0730?

According to the TFL journey planner, you need to leave at 5.40

Looking at the tube map, I can at see at least these options:

Tottenham Hale - Victoria - Turnham Green

Bridge over line (stairs/escalator?) at TH.
Very long flight of stairs to change at Victoria.

Liverpool Street - Holborn - Hammersmith (cross platform) - Turnham Green

Escalators, and possibly stairs at Liverpool St.
Long escalators, and stairs, at Holborn.

Liverpool Street - Notting Hill Gate - Earl's Court - Turnham Green
Escalators, and possibly stairs at Liverpool St.
Stairs and maybe escalators at NHG.

Liverpool Street - Edgware Road - Earl's Court - Turnham Green

Stairs at LS over the line.
Possibility of having to use stairs over line at Edgware Rd.

Liverpool Street - Tower Hill - Turnham Green

For a minimum number of steps:

Southbound - Ignore Tottenham Hale as there is a bridge over tracks.
Travel to Liverpool St then get a clockwise Circle train (there's a
step-free route but can be hard to find), change anywhere along the
southern leg, to a District.

Northbound - Piccadilly or District + Piccadilly, then change to
Victoria at Finsbury Park. Escalators up to the northbound Stansted
Express platform.

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Roland Perry

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:39:53 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote this gibberish:


For a minimum number of steps:

Southbound - Ignore Tottenham Hale as there is a bridge over tracks.
Travel to Liverpool St then get a clockwise Circle train (there's a
step-free route but can be hard to find), change anywhere along the
southern leg, to a District.


Coming from southbound platform at Tottenham Hale there is an
escalator up to the bridge and very few steps at the other side of the
bridge, then escalators down to the vic line platforms.

--
Mark Varley
www.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.uk
www.TwistedPhotography.co.uk
London, England.

In message , at 13:33:48 on
Sun, 27 Apr 2008, MarkVarley - MVP
remarked:
For a minimum number of steps:

Southbound - Ignore Tottenham Hale as there is a bridge over tracks.
Travel to Liverpool St then get a clockwise Circle train (there's a
step-free route but can be hard to find), change anywhere along the
southern leg, to a District.

Coming from southbound platform at Tottenham Hale there is an
escalator up to the bridge and very few steps at the other side of the
bridge, then escalators down to the vic line platforms.

I can picture the escalators down to the Victoria Line. Are the steps
down fewer than would be required from bridge level to [northbound NXEA]
platform level?
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
13:33:48 on Sun, 27 Apr 2008, MarkVarley - MVP
remarked:
For a minimum number of steps:

Southbound - Ignore Tottenham Hale as there is a bridge over tracks.
Travel to Liverpool St then get a clockwise Circle train (there's a
step-free route but can be hard to find), change anywhere along the
southern leg, to a District.

Coming from southbound platform at Tottenham Hale there is an
escalator up to the bridge and very few steps at the other side of the
bridge, then escalators down to the vic line platforms.

I can picture the escalators down to the Victoria Line. Are the
steps down fewer than would be required from bridge level to
[northbound NXEA] platform level?

Yes. There are steps down from the victoria Line ticket office level to
the Down Lea Valley platform.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:32:12 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote this gibberish:

In message , at 13:33:48 on
Sun, 27 Apr 2008, MarkVarley - MVP
remarked:
For a minimum number of steps:

Southbound - Ignore Tottenham Hale as there is a bridge over tracks.
Travel to Liverpool St then get a clockwise Circle train (there's a
step-free route but can be hard to find), change anywhere along the
southern leg, to a District.

Coming from southbound platform at Tottenham Hale there is an
escalator up to the bridge and very few steps at the other side of the
bridge, then escalators down to the vic line platforms.

I can picture the escalators down to the Victoria Line. Are the steps
down fewer than would be required from bridge level to [northbound NXEA]
platform level?

yes, the ticket office floor level is IIRC a few steps down from the
bridge, the northbound platform is about twice as many steps again.
If memory serves me well, I've used the station probably half a dozen
times in the two years I've been here and never with alot of luggage.
--
Mark Varley
www.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.uk
www.TwistedPhotography.co.uk
London, England.