Paul Scott wrote:
From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7387113.stm

"That's why from 1 June the drinking of alcohol will be banned from the
tube, tram, bus, and Docklands Light Railway."

Have they forgotten the 'Overground' then?
Will crowds flock to mainline terminals with bars on the concourses?
Is this a real problem?

Paul


Spotted the Overground wasn't there too, which begs the question what
happens on joint routes like Richmond-Gunnersbury and Queens Park-Harrow
& Wealdstone. He presumably doesn't have the power on Network Rail
(there are presumably routes wholly within London you can still *buy*
booze on the train, surely?), but I've no idea what powers he actually
has to do this (he does have them, presumably?).

Then there's the question of enforcement, of course.

Tom

"Tom Barry" wrote in message
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Paul Scott wrote:
From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7387113.stm

"That's why from 1 June the drinking of alcohol will be banned from the
tube, tram, bus, and Docklands Light Railway."

Have they forgotten the 'Overground' then?
Will crowds flock to mainline terminals with bars on the concourses?
Is this a real problem?

Paul

Spotted the Overground wasn't there too, which begs the question what
happens on joint routes like Richmond-Gunnersbury and Queens Park-Harrow &
Wealdstone. He presumably doesn't have the power on Network Rail (there
are presumably routes wholly within London you can still *buy* booze on
the train, surely?), but I've no idea what powers he actually has to do
this (he does have them, presumably?).


Interesting point - I'd just put it down to a cockup.

More confirmation that LO is still part of the National Network perhaps. In
your example Richmond definitely is - would Gunnersbury be a Network Rail
station leased and run by LU or LO?

Paul S

Paul Scott wrote:

Interesting point - I'd just put it down to a cockup.

More confirmation that LO is still part of the National Network perhaps. In
your example Richmond definitely is - would Gunnersbury be a Network Rail
station leased and run by LU or LO?

Paul S



NR station managed by LU I think. It had Oyster readers long before LO
was launched.

Tom

Tom Barry wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:

Interesting point - I'd just put it down to a cockup.

More confirmation that LO is still part of the National Network
perhaps. In your example Richmond definitely is - would Gunnersbury
be a Network Rail station leased and run by LU or LO?

NR station managed by LU I think. It had Oyster readers long before
LO was launched.

It was managed by Silverlink previously. LU only took over the managment
when LO was launched. I assume that formally it's still owned by Network
Rail.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Richard J. wrote:

It was managed by Silverlink previously. LU only took over the managment
when LO was launched. I assume that formally it's still owned by Network
Rail.

Thanks for clearing that up, I thought it went LU before the LO
takeover, but the announcement could have been well in advance of it
happening.

Tom

In article ,
(Tom Barry) wrote:

Richard J. wrote:

It was managed by Silverlink previously. LU only took over the
managment when LO was launched. I assume that formally it's still
owned by Network Rail.

Thanks for clearing that up, I thought it went LU before the LO
takeover, but the announcement could have been well in advance of
it happening.

I'm puzzled by that because I thought it was handed over to LU at BR
privatisation, like East Putney to Wimbledon Park definitely were.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Barry) wrote:

Richard J. wrote:

It was managed by Silverlink previously. LU only took over the
managment when LO was launched. I assume that formally it's still
owned by Network Rail.

Thanks for clearing that up, I thought it went LU before the LO
takeover, but the announcement could have been well in advance of
it happening.

I'm puzzled by that because I thought it was handed over to LU at BR
privatisation, like East Putney to Wimbledon Park definitely were.

I guess the difference was that the only passenger services that called at
East Puney/Southfields/Wimbledon Park were LU, whereas both Silverlink Metro
and LU served Gunnersbury and Kew Gardens.

At
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ns_station.jpg
you can see the Silverlink-style station name plate at Kew Gardens.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Tom Barry wrote:

(there are presumably routes wholly within London you can still *buy*
booze on the train, surely?), but I've no idea what powers he actually
has to do this (he does have them, presumably?)

Are there actually any *wholely* within London for which this applies?
I can think of examples of trains that go between two places within
London that serve booze on the train (Liverpool St to Norwich between
L.St. and Stratford, for example, but I can't bring to mind any
*wholely* within London ones that serve booze on the train.

Robin

On 7 May, 17:45, "R.C. Payne" wrote:
(there are presumably routes wholly within London you can still *buy*
booze on the train, surely?), but I've no idea what powers he actually
has to do this (he does have them, presumably?)

Are there actually any *wholely* within London for which this applies?
I can think of examples of trains that go between two places within
London that serve booze on the train (Liverpool St to Norwich between
L.St. and Stratford, for example, but I can't bring to mind any
*wholely* within London ones that serve booze on the train.

....or Waterloo to Portsmouth via Clapham Junction. Or Olympia to
Croydon, for a limited time only...

But yes, I'm fairly sure there are no London-only routes with catering
of any kind.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

John B wrote:

But yes, I'm fairly sure there are no London-only routes with catering
of any kind.

I must confess I was finding it hard to think of any -
Paddington-Ealing Broadway, perhaps, or Marylebone-South Ruislip, but
I'm by no means certain of either case. Waterloo-Wimbledon?

However, the wider point that someone commuting from, say, Uxbridge
can't have a drink on the way home while someone from Oxford can be
*sold* one holds true, and has interesting class implications.

Tom