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On May 25, 5:33*am, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Fri, 23 May 2008, 1506 wrote:
On May 23, 4:05*am, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 22 May, 20:06, 1506 wrote:


On May 22, 3:40*am, Tom Anderson wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008, 1506 wrote:
You need to get out more.


You need to shut up more.


Manners.


"You need to get out more" was rather rude too, old boy. We don't need
another Polson here.


You certainly know how to grab a guy?s attention. *The last thing I
want to do is look into a mirror and see THAT sort of anger.


Mr. Anderson, please know that I regret my acerbic response to your
post.


And i mine to yours. There was something to it that tripped my troll
detector, and i abandoned politeness. I shall try to avoid such false
positives in the future.

tom

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We have exchanged views in several threads Tom. Perhaps my very pro
Crossrail stance looks like trolling. But, I assure I am NOT a
troll. I do believe it will be a step improvemint in London's
infrastructure.

Kindly yours

Adrian

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On May 25, 5:31*am, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2008, Martin Edwards wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
On Fri, 23 May 2008 02:25:49 -0700 (PDT),
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Flying into London is, by any reasonable definition, hell.


No. *Flying into *Heathrow* is, by any reasonable definition, hell.
There are, however, many other airports in the London area, and all of
them are orders of magnitude better.


I imagine you have to be of high net worth to use City Airport.


I'm flying from Zurich to City in the summer. It was something like 20
quid more expensive than BA to Luton. Once you'd factored in the train
fare, it was only about a tenner more, and it's so much easier to get home
from there that it's worth it.

In the past I have flown into City Airport from Edinburgh very
economically. This was in 2002. The downside was the poor transit
conections. It was a pain to reach the Jubilee Line.

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On May 24, 12:47*am, The Real Doctor
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On 24 May, 00:27, 1506 wrote:

Richard J, please know that I regret my acerbic response to your
post. *I withdraw it.


Coo, isn't this newsgroup getting all polite? I like it - seriously!

Adrian


A Dr. Ian.


You had best hope that Polson does not interpret "A Dr. Ian" to mean
that your ID is an alias for me. :-)

Like you, I would much prefer that these discussions are maintained in
a civil an friendly manner.

We will have to agree to disagree on the importance of CrossRail.

Kindly

Adrian
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"1506" wrote

In the past I have flown into City Airport from Edinburgh very
economically. This was in 2002. The downside was the poor transit
conections. It was a pain to reach the Jubilee Line.


Now very straightforward. DLR to Canning Town and change to Jubilee Line
there.

Peter


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On May 28, 11:05*am, "Peter Masson" wrote:
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In the past I have flown into City Airport from Edinburgh very
economically. *This was in 2002. *The downside was the poor transit
conections. *It was a pain to reach the Jubilee Line.


Now very straightforward. DLR to Canning Town and change to Jubilee Line
there.

Peter


In those days DLR did not run to City Airport.


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On 28 May, 19:22, 1506 wrote:

On May 28, 11:05 am, "Peter Masson" wrote:

"1506" wrote


In the past I have flown into City Airport from Edinburgh very
economically. This was in 2002. The downside was the poor transit
conections. It was a pain to reach the Jubilee Line.


Now very straightforward. DLR to Canning Town and change to Jubilee Line
there.


In those days DLR did not run to City Airport.



I'm sure Peter was merely pointing out, for the sake of clarity and
for the benefit of those who're less au fait with such matters, that
the situation has now changed.

Pre-DLR one could of course still get between the Canning Town
interchange and City Airport by bus - whether London Bus route 69 (not
sure when it started linking the two places though - perhaps on the
opening of the Jubilee line extension?) or by the dedicated airport
shuttle bus, though the latter was pricey.

When (if?) the new Crossrail station at Custom House opens, there'll
certainly be an opening (if not a need) for a direct bus link between
it and City Airport.
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On May 28, 11:43*am, Mizter T wrote:
On 28 May, 19:22, 1506 wrote:

On May 28, 11:05 am, "Peter Masson" wrote:


"1506" wrote


In the past I have flown into City Airport from Edinburgh very
economically. *This was in 2002. *The downside was the poor transit
conections. *It was a pain to reach the Jubilee Line.


Now very straightforward. DLR to Canning Town and change to Jubilee Line
there.


In those days DLR did not run to City Airport.


I'm sure Peter was merely pointing out, for the sake of clarity and
for the benefit of those who're less au fait with such matters, that
the situation has now changed.

Understood.

Pre-DLR one could of course still get between the Canning Town
interchange and City Airport by bus - whether London Bus route 69 (not
sure when it started linking the two places though - perhaps on the
opening of the Jubilee line extension?) or by the dedicated airport
shuttle bus, though the latter was pricey.

We had luggage, so the bus, which we utilized, was not a great option.

When (if?) the new Crossrail station at Custom House opens, there'll
certainly be an opening (if not a need) for a direct bus link between
it and City Airport.


That probably depends how busy the Airport becomes.

Do you still have confidence that Crossrail construction will proceed
on a timely basis?


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Graeme Wall wrote:
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Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 07:37:40 on Wed, 28
May 2008, Martin Edwards remarked:
I still think it's difficult to argue that 35 miles
away in Bedfordshire is London, while 41 miles away in Essex isn't...

None of it is London, precisely the point I am making. As a native of
Watford, on the very rim of Greater London, I have an axe to grind.

But you can't get away from the fact that Stansted is London's official
"Third Airport".


Which official?


Good point. For a period we nearly had "London Airport, Gaydon" which
is actually between Rugby and Coventry.

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On May 27, 12:02*pm, (Neil Williams)
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:12:44 -0700 (PDT),
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Fair enough. But I still think it's difficult to argue that 35 miles
away in Bedfordshire is London, while 41 miles away in Essex isn't...


The point is that they all *serve* London. *Gatwick isn't much
closer...

IMHO the Rail to Terminal interchange at Gatwick is about as good as
it gets. There is a frequent rail service to many destinations. The
platform overbridge leads directly into the terminal building.

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1506 wrote:
On May 27, 12:02 pm, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:12:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Fair enough. But I still think it's difficult to argue that 35 miles
away in Bedfordshire is London, while 41 miles away in Essex isn't...

The point is that they all *serve* London. Gatwick isn't much
closer...

IMHO the Rail to Terminal interchange at Gatwick is about as good as
it gets. There is a frequent rail service to many destinations. The
platform overbridge leads directly into the terminal building.


Unless you're flying into the other terminal. But it is pretty good.
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