In message , at 10:55:40 on Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Dik T.
Winter remarked:
On another note, though, I would like to see the abolition of the 1p
and 2p coins as the Dutch have done with the 1 and 2 euro-cent coins.
There is hardly a need for them these days.

Are they allowed to do that when they are valid elsewhere in the EU?

The 1 and 2 cent coins are accepted but that is just about all. Moreover,
when paying in cash the total amount to pay is rounded to the nearest
multiple of 5 cent (which is allowed *), so you will never receive 1 and
2 cent coins.

Half an hour ago a Dutch bureau de change gave me a 97 cents, rather
than the 96 cents they calculated they owed me. The change included one
each of 2c and 5c.

So it seems the Dutch have not abolished the 2c after all.

If they'd have wanted to round it up to a Euro (and save counting small
coins at all) that would have been fine by me.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 10:55:40 on Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Dik T.
Winter remarked:
On another note, though, I would like to see the abolition of the 1p
and 2p coins as the Dutch have done with the 1 and 2 euro-cent coins.
There is hardly a need for them these days.

Are they allowed to do that when they are valid elsewhere in the EU?

The 1 and 2 cent coins are accepted but that is just about all. Moreover,
when paying in cash the total amount to pay is rounded to the nearest
multiple of 5 cent (which is allowed *), so you will never receive 1 and
2 cent coins.

Half an hour ago a Dutch bureau de change gave me a 97 cents, rather than
the 96 cents they calculated they owed me. The change included one each of
2c and 5c.

So it seems the Dutch have not abolished the 2c after all.


Can they actually abolish it in their country, however? It's one monetary
system, which is used by 15 states.

In message , at 23:43:47 on Thu, 19
Jun 2008, remarked:
So it seems the Dutch have not abolished the 2c after all.

Can they actually abolish it in their country, however?

I don't know. I was simply reporting that it was, in fact, still in
circulation, despite reports to the contrary.

It's one monetary system, which is used by 15 states.

I'm going to France soon and I'll see what the situation is there.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote in
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In message , at 23:43:47 on Thu,
19 Jun 2008, remarked:
So it seems the Dutch have not abolished the 2c after all.

Can they actually abolish it in their country, however?

I don't know. I was simply reporting that it was, in fact, still in
circulation, despite reports to the contrary.

It's one monetary system, which is used by 15 states.

I'm going to France soon and I'll see what the situation is there.

I was in St Omer (northern France) last Saturday, and when buying in the
market, they (consistently) priced with a resolution of 1c and totalled
the bill precisely, but then only charged me the price rounded down to a
5c multiple. So for example, item A was weighed and labelled as 1.28
euro, item B was labelled at 1.59 euro, the total was 2.87 euro and they
gave 15c change from 3 euro.

I imagine they would accept 1c and 2c coins, but I didn't try.

Peter

--
Peter Campbell Smith ~ London ~ pjcs00 (a) gmail.com

Peter Campbell Smith wrote:

I was in St Omer (northern France) last Saturday, and when buying in the
market, they (consistently) priced with a resolution of 1c and totalled
the bill precisely, but then only charged me the price rounded down to a
5c multiple. So for example, item A was weighed and labelled as 1.28
euro, item B was labelled at 1.59 euro, the total was 2.87 euro and they
gave 15c change from 3 euro.

I imagine they would accept 1c and 2c coins, but I didn't try.

The strange thing about France is that several years after going over to
the Euro, many bills and credit card slips still have the amount in
francs as well as euros. I am not sure why this is.

Peter Beale

In message , at 18:11:59 on Fri, 20
Jun 2008, Peter Beale remarked:
The strange thing about France is that several years after going over
to the Euro, many bills and credit card slips still have the amount in
francs as well as euros. I am not sure why this is.

It was like that originally in the Netherlands too (not French francs
though, of course), but it soon went away. It seemed to be linked to
people who hadn't had their menus and price tags reprinted into Euros
yet.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 18:11:59 on Fri, 20
Jun 2008, Peter Beale remarked:
The strange thing about France is that several years after going over to
the Euro, many bills and credit card slips still have the amount in francs
as well as euros. I am not sure why this is.

It was like that originally in the Netherlands too (not French francs
though, of course), but it soon went away. It seemed to be linked to
people who hadn't had their menus and price tags reprinted into Euros yet.
--

Each state had its own transition periods, in which both currencies could
operate side by side.

"Peter Beale" wrote in message
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Peter Campbell Smith wrote:

I was in St Omer (northern France) last Saturday, and when buying in the
market, they (consistently) priced with a resolution of 1c and totalled
the bill precisely, but then only charged me the price rounded down to a
5c multiple. So for example, item A was weighed and labelled as 1.28
euro, item B was labelled at 1.59 euro, the total was 2.87 euro and they
gave 15c change from 3 euro. I imagine they would accept 1c and 2c coins,
but I didn't try.

The strange thing about France is that several years after going over to
the Euro, many bills and credit card slips still have the amount in francs
as well as euros. I am not sure why this is.

Peter Beale
Whilst the French were still using the franc, most people of my acquaintance
in rural France still referred to land and property values in old francs
(which hadn't been around for at least forty years)- very disconcerting when
one heard of something costing X million (centimes). I think they like to
keep some point of reference to pre-existing values, so they've got
something to complain about....
Brian

BH Williams wrote:
Whilst the French were still using the franc, most people of my acquaintance
in rural France still referred to land and property values in old francs
(which hadn't been around for at least forty years)- very disconcerting when
one heard of something costing X million (centimes). I think they like to
keep some point of reference to pre-existing values, so they've got
something to complain about....
Brian

I find it useful (and frightening) to convert from decimal currency back
to old-fashioned pounds, shillings and pence; a small bar of chocolate
now costs twelve shillings (60p).
Bruce

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:11:59 +0100, Peter Beale
wrote:

The strange thing about France is that several years after going over to
the Euro, many bills and credit card slips still have the amount in
francs as well as euros. I am not sure why this is.

There was a legal requirement for amounts to be expressed in both
currencies, although I am not sure if that is still in force. But, as
you noted, in practice this is still done. My bank statements are
also still in both francs and euros.