"Rian van der Borgt" wrote in message
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I notice that in Amsterdam, GVB does not accept 50-euro notes.

Not even when you buy ticket(s) for that amount or more?


I'm not sure, though I saw on trams an image of a 50-euro note that had been
crossed out.

My guess is that they are not expexting you to stump up that much cash for
tickets in one go -- at least not on trams.

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:36:05 +0100, wrote:
"Rian van der Borgt" wrote:
I notice that in Amsterdam, GVB does not accept 50-euro notes.

Not even when you buy ticket(s) for that amount or more?

I'm not sure, though I saw on trams an image of a 50-euro note that had been
crossed out.

My guess is that they are not expexting you to stump up that much cash for
tickets in one go -- at least not on trams.

Ah, that explains it. I was thinking about the GVB office in front of
the central station.
Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50
euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them.

Regards,

Rian

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On 27 Jun 2008 19:52:56 GMT, Rian van der Borgt
wrote:

Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50
euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them.

Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason.

Neil

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Put my first name before the at to reply.

On 27 Jun 2008 19:52:56 GMT, Rian van der Borgt
wrote:

Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50
euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them.

Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason.

Neil

And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver),
you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus... ticket
machines at SkyTrain/SeaBus stations will accept bills to $20 and make
change, as well as accept credit/debit cards... once the fare is paid,
the ticket/transfer is valid across the whole transit system
(bus/train/ferry), depending on the zone/s paid for.

In message , at 20:46:10 on
Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Nobody remarked:
Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50
euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them.

Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason.

And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver),
you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus... ticket
machines at SkyTrain/SeaBus stations will accept bills to $20 and make
change, as well as accept credit/debit cards... once the fare is paid,
the ticket/transfer is valid across the whole transit system
(bus/train/ferry), depending on the zone/s paid for.

In Metro Nottingham, in the UK Midlands, the biggest bus company only
allows you to pay by exact money, but they accept notes (an all-day
group ticket for 2 adults and 2 children is now £6 so you can pay by £5
note plus £1 coin).

In fact by lucky chance almost all their tickets are currently an exact
multiple of £1 at the moment (a one-person all-day ticket is £3, up from
£2.70 which was always a pain to scrape together).

You can buy pre-pay smart-cards at their city centre office only, and
they'll happily accept credit cards or large notes there.
--
Roland Perry

Nobody wrote:
On 27 Jun 2008 19:52:56 GMT, Rian van der Borgt
wrote:
Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50
euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them.

Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason.

And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver),
you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus...

AFAIK, that is the case for all buses in the US as well. Exact cash
fares are required, though many systems will let you overpay if you
don't demand change (i.e. they'll let you pay USD2 for a USD1.50 fare).

There are many reasons for this. The most obvious is that making change
increases dwell time, which slows the bus down. The more important one,
though, is that this way the driver does not handle any money; the fare
goes directly from the passenger's hands into a lockbox, which reduces
the risks of both driver theft and robbery.

ticket machines at SkyTrain/SeaBus stations will accept bills to $20
and make change, as well as accept credit/debit cards... once the fare
is paid, the ticket/transfer is valid across the whole transit system
(bus/train/ferry), depending on the zone/s paid for.

AFAIK, all TVMs in the US and Canada will accept $20 bills. The problem
with doing that is the change you get: a USD1.50 ticket here means
twenty coins (18x$1, 2x25c) in change from a USD20 bill, and that's
enough weight and bulk to seriously annoy you. As a result, I rarely
see anyone using bills larger than $5 at our TVMs.

S

Nobody wrote:
On 27 Jun 2008 19:52:56 GMT, Rian van der Borgt
wrote:
Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50
euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them.

Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason.

And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver),
you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus...

AFAIK, that is the case for all buses in the US as well. Exact cash
fares are required, though many systems will let you overpay if you
don't demand change (i.e. they'll let you pay USD2 for a USD1.50 fare).

There are many reasons for this. The most obvious is that making change
increases dwell time, which slows the bus down. The more important one,
though, is that this way the driver does not handle any money; the fare
goes directly from the passenger's hands into a lockbox, which reduces
the risks of both driver theft and robbery.

ticket machines at SkyTrain/SeaBus stations will accept bills to $20
and make change, as well as accept credit/debit cards... once the fare
is paid, the ticket/transfer is valid across the whole transit system
(bus/train/ferry), depending on the zone/s paid for.

AFAIK, all TVMs in the US and Canada will accept $20 bills. The problem
with doing that is the change you get: a USD1.50 ticket here means
twenty coins (18x$1, 2x25c) in change from a USD20 bill, and that's
enough weight and bulk to seriously annoy you. As a result, I rarely
see anyone using bills larger than $5 at our TVMs.

S

Canadian $2 coins (twoonies) and $1 coins (loonies) get rid of a lot
of that jingle-jangle!

Given that Metro Vancouver's base fare is $2.50 (i.e. one zone) or
$3.75/two zone, or $5/three zone, the change factor becomes relatively
minimal.

If those charges seem large, "fare saver" books and monthly passes
offer substantial discounts.

For example, a "ten-ticket" single-zone fare-saver booklet costs $19,
or $1.90/trip and is totally transferrable within the one zone, or
tri-zone system-wide after 6.30 p.m. and all day Sats/Suns/public
holidays.

An adult unrestricted daypass system-wise (all three zones but only
available after 9.30 a.m.) is $9.

Monthly fare cards by zone crossing for unlimited use are $73/99/136,
with a flat concession card at $42 anywhere, anytime for oldies and
kiddies.

The transit system (three zones) stretches from Lions Bay in the far
NW, to deep Langley in the far SE -- somewhere in the region of 75km
or more -- and all the way south to the Ammurican border -- though it
is concentrated in the "core" municipalities of the North Shore,
Vancouver city, Burnaby, New Westminster, Tri-Cities (in the NE),
Surrey/Delta, and Richmond.

And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver),
you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus...

AFAIK, that is the case for all buses in the US as well. Exact cash
fares are required, though many systems will let you overpay if you
don't demand change (i.e. they'll let you pay USD2 for a USD1.50 fare).

Exact change or season ticket or day ticket is about standard thought North
America, as been for at least a decade.

Same as single or perhaps two zone fares.

And, of course, transfer tickets to enable your to change buses without
having to pay again.


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Cheers

Roger T.
Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:-
http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/
Latitude: 48° 25' North
Longitude: 123° 21' West

"Nobody" wrote in message
...

Canadian $2 coins (twoonies) and $1 coins (loonies) get rid of a lot
of that jingle-jangle!

Any truth to rumours that the Canadians plan to introduce a 5-dollar coin
for general circulation?

Stephen Sprunk writes:
AFAIK, all TVMs in the US and Canada will accept $20 bills. The problem
with doing that is the change you get ...

In Toronto you can buy a single token (for the equivalent of a cash
fare, $2.75) from a vending machine, but you have to pay in coins, so
change is not an issue. (I'm not sure whether they give change from a
$3 or $4 payment -- I never pay single fares and it never occurred to
me to think about it until now. When the present machines were brought
into use, the cash fare was $2, so this was not an issue.)

The machines do take $20 bills, but what you get out is 8 tokens and
$2 in change. Similarly, a $10 bill gives you 4 tokens and $1. The
effective rate of $2.25 is equivalent to the 5 tokens for $11.25 that
you can buy in a store or from a human subway-station fare collector.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "The walls have hearsay."
-- Fonseca & Carolino