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CIRCLE LINE: Suspended due to faulty communications equipment.

HAMMERSMITH & CITY LINE: Severe delays are occurring due to earlier faulty
communications equipment.

METROPOLITAN LINE: Severe delays are occurring due to faulty communications
equipment.

DISTRICT LINE: Severe delays are occurring due to faulty communications
equipment.

BAKERLOO LINE: Minor delays are occurring due to faulty communications
equipment.

Does anyone know what broke, and why they don't have a spare one?

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It is somewhat an improvement on what was there an hour ago - Circle,
H&C, and District lines were all completely suspended.

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"Alex" wrote in message
...

It is somewhat an improvement on what was there an hour ago - Circle,
H&C, and District lines were all completely suspended.

And the LU status display on my Google home page has ceased functioning.
Obviously a widespread problem.

MaxB

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On 3 Jul, 13:56, "Batman55" wrote:
"Alex" wrote in message

...



It is somewhat an improvement on what was there an hour ago - Circle,
H&C, and District lines were all completely suspended.

And the LU status display on my Google home page has ceased functioning.
Obviously a widespread problem.

MaxB

I gather a yougart (spelling police please) pot fell off a string
meaning communications weren't very easy down there!

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And the LU status display on my Google home page has ceased functioning.

Due to faulty communications equipment presumably.

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On Jul 3, 6:40 pm, "dB" wrote:
And the LU status display on my Google home page has ceased functioning.

Due to faulty communications equipment presumably.

Defective Connect PFI radio equipment at Baker Street.

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On Jul 3, 11:58*pm, chunky munky
wrote:
On Jul 3, 6:40 pm, "dB" wrote:

And the LU status display on my Google home page has ceased functioning.

Due to faulty communications equipment presumably.

Defective Connect PFI radio equipment at Baker Street.

AND this morning Heathrow Connect was terminating at Hayes and
Harlington (an increasingly frequent occurance) whereby all pax
heading for Heathrow are unceremoniously booted out of the train on
the bay platform 5 and told to continue their journey by bus. H&H
being surrounded by an enourmous building site does not even have a
lift, only very steep stairs, and the Connect and FGW platform staff
aren't inclined to help tem. And so the happless intending air pax -
having paid £6.30 each to get to Heathrow - then have to lummox their
luggage up the stairs to the foyer. There they then have to pay £2
each to continue their interrupted - and by now stressful - journey to
Heathrow hopefully not missing their flight(s). CJB.

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On Jul 3, 11:58 pm, chunky munky
wrote:
On Jul 3, 6:40 pm, "dB" wrote:

And the LU status display on my Google home page has ceased functioning.

Due to faulty communications equipment presumably.

Defective Connect PFI radio equipment at Baker Street.

Obviously no one in LUL has ever heard the phrase "backup system".
Pathetic.

B2003

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On Jul 4, 12:11 am, CJB wrote:
AND this morning Heathrow Connect was terminating at Hayes and
Harlington (an increasingly frequent occurance) whereby all pax
heading for Heathrow are unceremoniously booted out of the train on
the bay platform 5 and told to continue their journey by bus. H&H

Frankly , if you've got any brains you get a minicab to an airport.
Relying on public transport is as good as missing your flight. I can't
remember the last time I took the tube to heathrow or southern to
gatwick. Even if the mainline railways are running fine the tube will
always screw you over somehow preventing you from getting to victoria
or paddington.

B2003

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On Jul 4, 12:27 pm, Tom Barry wrote:
I can't have any brains then, the last time I went to Heathrow I took a
suitcase, buggy and toddler on the Piccadilly Line. Lucky for me I got
one of the few occasions it worked eh?

Well its a good thing you didn't take it the other day when it was
terminating at northfields. Again. Quite what LUL expect passengers to
do when kicked out 8 miles from the airport in the middle of a suburb
with a load of luggage is anyones guess. Not that I suspect they give
a toss in the first place.

Of course, your criticisms apply to St. Pancras International, too -
would you recommend I get a cab there? Was the person who built the
Thameslink box just wasting concrete?

IMO yes , but for another reason - KX thameslink used to be a
convenient interchange with the tube. Not any more. Now for the sake
of the small number of people who'll travel down from luton or bedford
to get the eurostar , thousands of rush hour commuters are now faced
with a 400 metre hike. Genius.

B2003

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IMO yes , but for another reason - KX thameslink used to be a
convenient interchange with the tube. Not any more. Now for the sake
of the small number of people who'll travel down from luton or bedford
to get the eurostar , thousands of rush hour commuters are now faced
with a 400 metre hike. Genius.

B2003

As someone who has the misfortune to have to undergo this hike twice a day,
every day, I cd not agree more. Not only is it a 400m hike, in order to get
to work I now have to go through two ticket barriers and dodge lost and
bemused tourists, people nattering on their mobiles, emailing on their
blackberries or families dragging humungeous suitcases who because they are
on holidays are in no particular rush . The flows of people have not been
properly planned and there are several places where human currents going in
opposite directions intersect with the consequent shoving, pushing and
dodging. It may be a beautiful building but for its heaviest users, the
commuters, it is an unholy mess and a nightmare, it is by far the most
stressful part of my day. I hate it.

María

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In message , at 23:59:56 on
Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Maria remarked:
As someone who has the misfortune to have to undergo this hike twice a
day, every day, I cd not agree more. Not only is it a 400m hike, in
order to get to work I now have to go through two ticket barriers and
dodge lost and bemused tourists, people nattering on their mobiles,
emailing on their blackberries or families dragging humungeous
suitcases who because they are on holidays are in no particular rush .
The flows of people have not been properly planned and there are
several places where human currents going in opposite directions
intersect with the consequent shoving, pushing and dodging. It may be
a beautiful building but for its heaviest users, the commuters, it is
an unholy mess and a nightmare, it is by far the most stressful part of
my day. I hate it.

If you are arriving by FCC, I suggest you exit St Pancras by the doors
next to the "Circle" shopping centre, then cross the road towards KX
Suburban platforms, then walk along KX platform 8 to the tube (this is
in effect the route that will be mirrored by new underground passages
when the northern ticket hall opens).

Or if you are heading for the Circle Line platforms, walk along the
outside of St Pancras.

EMT passengers should stay upstairs, and walk past both the champagne
bar and statue, then down a flight of stairs direct to the western
ticket hall.

This avoids the crowds downstairs inside St Pancras, which I agree are
chaotic.
--
Roland Perry

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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 23:59:56 on Fri,
4 Jul 2008, Maria remarked:
As someone who has the misfortune to have to undergo this hike twice a
day, every day, I cd not agree more. Not only is it a 400m hike, in order
to get to work I now have to go through two ticket barriers and dodge
lost and bemused tourists, people nattering on their mobiles, emailing on
their blackberries or families dragging humungeous suitcases who because
they are on holidays are in no particular rush . The flows of people have
not been properly planned and there are several places where human
currents going in opposite directions intersect with the consequent
shoving, pushing and dodging. It may be a beautiful building but for its
heaviest users, the commuters, it is an unholy mess and a nightmare, it is
by far the most stressful part of my day. I hate it.

If you are arriving by FCC, I suggest you exit St Pancras by the doors
next to the "Circle" shopping centre, then cross the road towards KX
Suburban platforms, then walk along KX platform 8 to the tube (this is in
effect the route that will be mirrored by new underground passages when
the northern ticket hall opens).

Or if you are heading for the Circle Line platforms, walk along the
outside of St Pancras.

EMT passengers should stay upstairs, and walk past both the champagne bar
and statue, then down a flight of stairs direct to the western ticket
hall.

This avoids the crowds downstairs inside St Pancras, which I agree are
chaotic.
--
Roland Perry

Thanks Roland, I shall definitely try this.

María

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On 5 Jul, 02:17, Steve M wrote:
You must be loaded... a cab from my house (Finchley) to any of the 5
London airports would cost a bomb! Thankfully... every time I fly (which

Well I don't fly often so the cost doesn't matter. If I did it every
week it might be another matter.

Methinks you are just a bit negative generally. Sometimes, things do go

Only about the tube. I endured 20 years of commuting on it and I'd had
enough. Thank god I now drive to work and only use the tube to visit
the west end now and then. Give me a traffic jam any day instead of
yet another "signal failure" or "regulating the service" or "passenger
action" or whatever other feeble excuse for their incompetence they'd
picked that morning by chucking a dart at a board. They're just liars
as well as useless.

B2003

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On Jul 4, 11:31 am, wrote:
On Jul 4, 12:11 am, CJB wrote:

AND this morning Heathrow Connect was terminating at Hayes and
Harlington (an increasingly frequent occurance) whereby all pax
heading for Heathrow are unceremoniously booted out of the train on
the bay platform 5 and told to continue their journey by bus. H&H

Frankly , if you've got any brains you get a minicab to an airport.
Relying on public transport is as good as missing your flight. I can't
remember the last time I took the tube to heathrow or southern to
gatwick.

So how would you know? Oh, I see, a bloke in the pub told you.

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On 5 Jul, 08:41, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 23:59:56 on
Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Maria remarked:

As someone who has the misfortune to have to undergo this hike twice a
day, every day, I cd not agree more. *Not only is it a 400m hike, in
order to get to work I *now have to go through two ticket barriers and
dodge lost and bemused tourists, people nattering on their mobiles,
emailing on their blackberries or families dragging humungeous
suitcases who because they are on holidays are in no particular rush .
The flows of people have not been properly planned and there are
several places where human currents going in opposite directions
intersect with the consequent shoving, pushing and dodging. *It may be
a beautiful building but for its heaviest users, the commuters, it is
an unholy mess and a nightmare, it is by far the most stressful part of
my day. *I hate it.

If you are arriving by FCC, I suggest you exit St Pancras by the doors
next to the "Circle" shopping centre, then cross the road towards KX
Suburban platforms, then walk along KX platform 8 to the tube (this is
in effect the route that will be mirrored by new underground passages
when the northern ticket hall opens).

If you do this in the morning peak note (and it sounds like you do)
you will find that, to reduce overcrowding, the entrance to the
underground inside King's Cross station is now kept closed every
weekday morning until about 10am. Passengers arriving on King's Cross
platforms 1-8 and wanting the underground are diverted to use the
street entrance in front of the station, which at this time is kept
artifically constricted so that only one or two passengers can enter
at a time. Sometimes this causes such a crowd of people queueing to
get into the underground station that it is often quicker to cross St
Pancras Road and use the entrance under St Pancras station instead.

So Roland's alternative suggestion...

Or if you are heading for the Circle Line platforms, walk along the
outside of St Pancras.

...is probably best for the deep-level tube lines as well, at least in
the morning peak.

PaulO

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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 03:31:48 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Jul 4, 12:11 am, CJB wrote:
AND this morning Heathrow Connect was terminating at Hayes and
Harlington (an increasingly frequent occurance) whereby all pax
heading for Heathrow are unceremoniously booted out of the train on
the bay platform 5 and told to continue their journey by bus. H&H

Frankly , if you've got any brains you get a minicab to an airport.
Relying on public transport is as good as missing your flight. I can't
remember the last time I took the tube to heathrow or southern to
gatwick. Even if the mainline railways are running fine the tube will
always screw you over somehow preventing you from getting to victoria
or paddington.

Clearly I have an acute brains shortage because when I fly I take a bus
and then two tube trains to Heathrow. On every occasion it has taken
almost exactly 90 minutes with no delays whatsoever.

By contrast I opted to try the MRT upon arrival in Singapore to reach my
hotel. This involved struggling to find out where the MRT ran from,
catching an inter terminal shuttle, walking for almost 10 minutes to
find the station, taking a train from a very impressive station two
stops down the line and being forced out onto a packed train on another
line and having to stand, a change to another line in downtown Singapore
and then a long walk. To be fair I could have caught a bus over the last
bit but was unaware of the numbers and missed the one sign that had the
information on it. The lack of a through train to / from Changi Airport
is not well advertised and hence I would never ever use public
transport to and from the airport - on my return leg I opted to use a
taxi. And this in a city where the rapid transit system has a good
reputation!

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

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On 5 Jul, 17:58, Paul Corfield wrote:
Clearly I have an acute brains shortage because when I fly I take a bus
and then two tube trains to Heathrow. On every occasion it has taken
almost exactly 90 minutes with no delays whatsoever.

Whatever you say Mr Unbiased LUL employee.

B2003

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wrote in message
...
On 5 Jul, 02:17, Steve M wrote:
You must be loaded... a cab from my house (Finchley) to any of the 5
London airports would cost a bomb! Thankfully... every time I fly (which

Well I don't fly often so the cost doesn't matter. If I did it every
week it might be another matter.

Methinks you are just a bit negative generally. Sometimes, things do go

Only about the tube. I endured 20 years of commuting on it and I'd had
enough. Thank god I now drive to work and only use the tube to visit
the west end now and then. Give me a traffic jam any day instead of
yet another "signal failure" or "regulating the service" or "passenger
action" or whatever other feeble excuse for their incompetence they'd
picked that morning by chucking a dart at a board. They're just liars
as well as useless.

B2003


You should try using public transport outside of London. It's not much use
when your last bus leaves at 7 o'clock, or there's no service at all on a
Sunday. While the Underground may have its problems, it does generally work,
and on the occasions I've used the Piccadilly line to Heathrow I've not had
any problems.

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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 17:58, Paul Corfield wrote:
Clearly I have an acute brains shortage because when I fly I take a bus
and then two tube trains to Heathrow. On every occasion it has taken
almost exactly 90 minutes with no delays whatsoever.

Whatever you say Mr Unbiased LUL employee.

Oh do give it a rest - just for once. If you think that what I wrote is
a lie then just say so.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

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Steve M wrote in news:6d80cfF1bapqU1
@mid.individual.net:

You must be loaded... a cab from my house (Finchley) to any of the 5
London airports would cost a bomb! Thankfully... every time I fly (which
is fairly often) I use public transport and it works fine. Even with a
minor delay, it's still fine, since I leave a little bit of extra time,
and check-in online, so can arrive and zoom straight through to the
aircraft.

Methinks you are just a bit negative generally. Sometimes, things do go
wrong, yes, but I use 3 Tube lines and a bus daily, and 9.5 times out of
10, it works like it should.

Cheers

Steve M


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On 5 Jul, 20:11, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 17:58, Paul Corfield wrote:
Clearly I have an acute brains shortage because when I fly I take a bus
and then two tube trains to Heathrow. On every occasion it has taken
almost exactly 90 minutes with no delays whatsoever.

Whatever you say Mr Unbiased LUL employee.

Oh do give it a rest - just for once. If you think that what I wrote is
a lie then just say so.

Well, lets be honest , you're hardly going to critiscise your employer
in a public forum, or not if you want to keep your job at least. So
anything you say about the tube is immediately suspect. Also I'm quite
well aware of the libel laws thanks.

B2003

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On 5 Jul, 19:27, "dB" wrote:
You should try using public transport outside of London. It's not much use
when your last bus leaves at 7 o'clock, or there's no service at all on a

Well thats your choice to live out in the sticks. When you live in a
capital city you expect a workable public transport system.

B2003

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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:59:15 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 20:11, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 17:58, Paul Corfield wrote:
Clearly I have an acute brains shortage because when I fly I take a bus
and then two tube trains to Heathrow. On every occasion it has taken
almost exactly 90 minutes with no delays whatsoever.

Whatever you say Mr Unbiased LUL employee.

Oh do give it a rest - just for once. If you think that what I wrote is
a lie then just say so.

Well, lets be honest , you're hardly going to critiscise your employer
in a public forum, or not if you want to keep your job at least. So
anything you say about the tube is immediately suspect. Also I'm quite
well aware of the libel laws thanks.

I have been critical of my employer on this group before and I don't
post lies or untruths either. Your level of cynicism towards other
people's honesty is rather breathtaking though.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 03:00:25 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 19:27, "dB" wrote:
You should try using public transport outside of London. It's not much use
when your last bus leaves at 7 o'clock, or there's no service at all on a

Well thats your choice to live out in the sticks. When you live in a
capital city you expect a workable public transport system.

And that, despite your incessant whining, is precisely what London
has.

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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:59:15 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 20:11, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 17:58, Paul Corfield wrote:
Clearly I have an acute brains shortage because when I fly I take a bus
and then two tube trains to Heathrow. On every occasion it has taken
almost exactly 90 minutes with no delays whatsoever.

Whatever you say Mr Unbiased LUL employee.

Oh do give it a rest - just for once. If you think that what I wrote is
a lie then just say so.

Well, lets be honest , you're hardly going to critiscise your employer
in a public forum, or not if you want to keep your job at least. So
anything you say about the tube is immediately suspect. Also I'm quite
well aware of the libel laws thanks.

In other words, you know it's a lie, but make no apologies for your
unfounded innuendo.

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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:30:06 +0100, James Farrar
wrote:

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:59:15 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 20:11, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 17:58, Paul Corfield wrote:
Clearly I have an acute brains shortage because when I fly I take a bus
and then two tube trains to Heathrow. On every occasion it has taken
almost exactly 90 minutes with no delays whatsoever.

Whatever you say Mr Unbiased LUL employee.

Oh do give it a rest - just for once. If you think that what I wrote is
a lie then just say so.

Well, lets be honest , you're hardly going to critiscise your employer
in a public forum, or not if you want to keep your job at least. So
anything you say about the tube is immediately suspect. Also I'm quite
well aware of the libel laws thanks.

In other words, you know it's a lie, but make no apologies for your
^
not!

unfounded innuendo.

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wrote in message
...
On 5 Jul, 19:27, "dB" wrote:
You should try using public transport outside of London. It's not much
use
when your last bus leaves at 7 o'clock, or there's no service at all on a

Well thats your choice to live out in the sticks. When you live in a
capital city you expect a workable public transport system.

B2003

I don't and never have lived out in the sticks. I was, however, referring to
my experiences when I lived in another major British city. The transport
system in London does work most of the time. You seem to either have an axe
to grind or are simply a troll.

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On 6 Jul, 11:25, James Farrar wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 03:00:25 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 5 Jul, 19:27, "dB" wrote:
You should try using public transport outside of London. It's not much use
when your last bus leaves at 7 o'clock, or there's no service at all on a

Well thats your choice to live out in the sticks. When you live in a
capital city you expect a workable public transport system.

And that, despite your incessant whining, is precisely what London
has.

Well you bloody commute on it every day then and see just how
wonderful you think it is. Yes , it'll get you there eventually. Not
much bloody good if you're late for a meeting or some other work
appointment though. Perhaps you should ask yourself if its so
wonderful how come so many people STILL drive or bike into london
despite the congestion charge.

B2003

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On 6 Jul, 11:30, James Farrar wrote:
In other words, you know it's a lie, but make no apologies for your
unfounded innuendo.

All I'm saying is I don't believe him. Perhaps he's just mistaken.

B2003

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On 6 Jul, 12:14, "dB" wrote:
I don't and never have lived out in the sticks. I was, however, referring to
my experiences when I lived in another major British city. The transport
system in London does work most of the time. You seem to either have an axe
to grind or are simply a troll.

Bacuse obviously not living in London you'd be such as expert on the
state of the transportation system here. Why don't you **** back under
YOUR bridge.

B2003

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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:19:06 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Well you bloody commute on it every day then and see just how
wonderful you think it is. Yes , it'll get you there eventually. Not
much bloody good if you're late for a meeting or some other work
appointment though. Perhaps you should ask yourself if its so
wonderful how come so many people STILL drive or bike into london
despite the congestion charge.

London's transport system is IMO *just about* workable, but it is in a
lot of places embarrassing for a world-class city. Hamburg, for
example, has the kind of system - highly punctual and reliable, clean
and lots of capacity - that London should have.

The state of the track on the sub-surface lines, and the hunting
problem on the DLR are good examples of how poor it can be.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

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Bacuse obviously not living in London you'd be such as expert on the
state of the transportation system here.

I do live in London and use public transport every day. It's considerably
better than the public transport elsewhere in this country.

Why don't you **** back under YOUR bridge.

Yup, a troll.

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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:05:48 +0100, "dB" wrote:

I do live in London and use public transport every day. It's considerably
better than the public transport elsewhere in this country.

That it is, but it is considerably worse than that in many other
comparable European cities.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

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In message , at
15:05:48 on Sun, 6 Jul 2008, dB remarked:
I do live in London and use public transport every day. It's considerably
better than the public transport elsewhere in this country.

That's a fairly bold assertion. Having experienced both at close
quarters, I think the public transport in Nottingham is at least as
good. And having been many places in the World, there are plenty where
public transport is cheaper and cleaner than in London.
--
Roland Perry

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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:20:00 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On 6 Jul, 11:30, James Farrar wrote:
In other words, you know it's a lie, but make no apologies for your
unfounded innuendo.

All I'm saying is I don't believe him. Perhaps he's just mistaken.

I am not mistaken. You're just simply being distrustful and playing to
your usual persona on here.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 15:05:48
on Sun, 6 Jul 2008, dB remarked:
I do live in London and use public transport every day. It's considerably
better than the public transport elsewhere in this country.

That's a fairly bold assertion. Having experienced both at close quarters,
I think the public transport in Nottingham is at least as good. And having
been many places in the World, there are plenty where public transport is
cheaper and cleaner than in London.
--
Roland Perry

A generalisation, yes. As always there are exceptions and Nottingham has
always had fairly good bus services. That's not true of some other large
cities though. If I had to live without a car, of all the places I've lived
in, London would be the easiest place to do it (followed by Nottingham). I
agree about the cleanliness, although to be fair that's not just a public
transport issue.

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Neil Williams wrote:

London's transport system is IMO *just about* workable, but it is in a
lot of places embarrassing for a world-class city. Hamburg, for
example, has the kind of system - highly punctual and reliable, clean
and lots of capacity - that London should have.

The state of the track on the sub-surface lines, and the hunting
problem on the DLR are good examples of how poor it can be.

Another example is the constant bangs and thumps from underneath the
train, and a generally "bouncy" ride, on the Metropolitan line services
to Uxbridge. Admittedly, the stock is about 45 years old, which may
explain it.