Yes, they are, and you can still see the bit on the train where the
Network SouthEast name and logo have been removed.

Not being an expert on such matters. But on the platform at Waterloo all
the way down every so often it looks like the three slanted stripes of
Network South East

That's where the door will be when the train stops and thus where you have
to stand to get on the train first, everybody then forms an orderly queue
behind you. (And unfortunately, yes I can remember when it was, exactly,
like that!)

Look at the Current Issue of Entrain, it has a full articla about the drain
plus all the rolling stock
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In article , Roland Perry
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The line used to belong to BR, and before that, the Southern, and the
original trains used to be in full NSE livery.
I thought the original ones were southern railway dark green.

I would have thought the *original* ones (we're on the third set of
trains since the line opened) would have been in LSWR colours.

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In message , Joe Patrick
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Look at the Current Issue of Entrain, it has a full articla about the drain
plus all the rolling stock

What's the colour of the original stock? Cream and brown like Clive
suggested? (I was remembering the post-war green ones).
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What's the colour of the original stock? Cream and brown like Clive
suggested? (I was remembering the post-war green ones).

Why cream and brown? It would either have been the LSWR or the SR, both of
which used olive? green for their passenger carriages.

I can recall seeing pictures of green carriages with "Southern" on them,
which I think were the second lot of stock.
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In message , Terry Harper
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What's the colour of the original stock? Cream and brown like Clive
suggested? (I was remembering the post-war green ones).

Why cream and brown? It would either have been the LSWR or the SR, both of
which used olive? green for their passenger carriages.

I googled for "LSWR colour" and got this:

http://home.planet.nl/~mhodson/rail3d/lswr.html

(which incidentally says there are no records of the colour of the first
W&C trains - which seems unlikely).
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Roland Perry

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In message , Terry Harper
writes
What's the colour of the original stock? Cream and brown like Clive
suggested? (I was remembering the post-war green ones).

Why cream and brown? It would either have been the LSWR or the SR, both
of
which used olive? green for their passenger carriages.

I googled for "LSWR colour" and got this:

http://home.planet.nl/~mhodson/rail3d/lswr.html

(which incidentally says there are no records of the colour of the first
W&C trains - which seems unlikely).
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Roland Perry

According to Southern Electric Multiple-Units 1898-1948 by Colin Marsden
published by Ian Allan, page 8;

"Coaches were of an all wood construction and painted in dark brown livery"

The book contains several interesting photos of the original stock and also
the replacement stock delivered in 1940. I imagine the book is long out of
print but copies might be knocking about in local libraries for any one
who's interested.

I hope this helps.

Russell

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , Terry Harper
writes

Why cream and brown? It would either have been the LSWR or the SR, both
of
which used olive? green for their passenger carriages.

I googled for "LSWR colour" and got this:

http://home.planet.nl/~mhodson/rail3d/lswr.html

(which incidentally says there are no records of the colour of the first
W&C trains - which seems unlikely).

Interesting, especially the original LSWR electric stock and the W&C
original stock.

But did you notice the link to
http://website.lineone.net/~earlygen...r/colour1.html, which has some
indications of colours?

That seems to answer the question.
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There is at least one unit running around with NSE stickers still on it.
I don't know which one, but I tend to see it a lot.


Q

"Ken Wheatley" wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 21:23:02 +0100, CJG
wrote:

Why do Waterloo City trains look like old Network South East trains?
Was the line previously British Rail?

They don't. They look like WAGN stock!


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