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On Sep 16, 1:57 pm, wrote:
If you are going to post to Usenet then please at least ensure that the Subject line is not totally misleading . Are you saying that someone who has commited a crime should never again be employed? Why should he profit from his criminal activities? If he hadn't been arrested for tagging and got noticed they wouldn't have been employed by those liberal ******* up at elstree would he? B2003 |
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On Sep 16, 2:18*pm, Boltar wrote:
On Sep 16, 1:57 pm, wrote: If you are going to post to Usenet then please at least ensure that the Subject line is not totally misleading . Are you saying that someone who has commited a crime should never again be employed? Why should he profit from his criminal activities? If he hadn't been arrested for tagging and got noticed they wouldn't have been employed by those liberal ******* up at elstree would he? But he is only profiting when his activities are legal. It really requires a lot of stretching of points and disregard of plenty worse things in the world to be able to drum up the tiniest dreg of outrage about this. |
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On Sep 16, 3:02 pm, MIG wrote:
Why should he profit from his criminal activities? If he hadn't been arrested for tagging and got noticed they wouldn't have been employed by those liberal ******* up at elstree would he? But he is only profiting when his activities are legal. It really requires a lot of stretching of points and disregard of plenty worse things in the world to be able to drum up the tiniest dreg of outrage about this. Interesting logic - because there are worse crimes don't worry about the little things. Didn't the police use that method for a while? Anyway , a graffiti vandal wants his tag to be seen. What better for the little twerp than if 3 million people see it on TV. Talk about rewarding crime. B2003 |
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On Sep 16, 4:46*pm, Boltar wrote:
On Sep 16, 3:02 pm, MIG wrote: Why should he profit from his criminal activities? If he hadn't been arrested for tagging and got noticed they wouldn't have been employed by those liberal ******* up at elstree would he? But he is only profiting when his activities are legal. *It really requires a lot of stretching of points and disregard of plenty worse things in the world to be able to drum up the tiniest dreg of outrage about this. Interesting logic - because there are worse crimes don't worry about the little things. Didn't the police use that method for a while? I am not suggesting not worrying about things. Just suggesting that if one wanted to contrive something to be outraged about, there must be easier targets. Anyway , a graffiti vandal wants his tag to be seen. What better for the little twerp than if 3 million people see it on TV. Talk about rewarding crime. The penny doesn't seem to be dropping that decorating a set is not a crime. The three million people are no more seeing a crime than if there was fake blood splatter from acted murder scene. It's entertainment, with references to the existence of crime. There's a lot of that kind of entertainment. |
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, John Rowland wrote:
According to Underground News Sept 2008, pg 654, while a railway graffiti vandal was on bail, he was hired by the BBC to spray his tag on the EastEnders set. Would you rather the BBC had hired a professional set-painter for ten times the price? At least then you'd get to rant about the BBC squandering license-payers' money instead! tom -- Any problem in computer science can be solved with another layer of indirection. -- David Wheeler |
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John Rowland wrote:
According to Underground News Sept 2008, pg 654, while a railway graffiti vandal was on bail, he was hired by the BBC to spray his tag on the EastEnders set. I remember that story. I've no idea what "Underground News" is, but presumably it cuts costs by reprinting stories from six months ago. |
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![]() "John Rowland" wrote in message ... According to Underground News Sept 2008, pg 654, while a railway graffiti vandal was on bail, he was hired by the BBC to spray his tag on the EastEnders set. Simple "tagging" is, in my view, mindless vandalism. However, I sometimes look at whole carriage decorations and wonder. I'm not sure it's ever my "taste" in art but I do find myself admiring the work that has gone in to designing and then executing the "decoration". In such circumstances I find myself having an internal debate as to how the person who did it could be encouraged out of the business of graffiti and into art (or graphic design or....) in almost a "Good Will Hunting" manner. If we can identify the person who undertook the design do we punish and then encourage? How do we find such people *before* they start on a life of graffiti? I don't claim to know the answer. |
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Graham Harrison wrote:
"John Rowland" wrote in message ... According to Underground News Sept 2008, pg 654, while a railway graffiti vandal was on bail, he was hired by the BBC to spray his tag on the EastEnders set. Simple "tagging" is, in my view, mindless vandalism. However, I sometimes look at whole carriage decorations and wonder. I'm not sure it's ever my "taste" in art but I do find myself admiring the work that has gone in to designing and then executing the "decoration". In such circumstances I find myself having an internal debate as to how the person who did it could be encouraged out of the business of graffiti and into art (or graphic design or....) in almost a "Good Will Hunting" manner. If we can identify the person who undertook the design do we punish and then encourage? How do we find such people *before* they start on a life of graffiti? I don't claim to know the answer. I run around local canals on long training runs - some concrete bridges have the most spectacular tagging, really intricate that must have taken an age of stencil preparation as well as lots of different cans of paint. When do they do all this and how do they do it in the dark?? I've ran at all times of the day and evening yet I've never seen anyone, I've seen a myriad of other things going on but never that. |
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