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Graham Harrison November 29th 08 05:57 PM

Southern East Croydon to Milton Keynes service issues
 

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:50:11 +0000, Gavin Hamilton
wrote:

Saw one stopping at Leighton Buzzard (north bound) on Thursday...



You sure it wasn't a Desiro? The service hasn't started yet.

Unless it was a crew-training run, I guess.

Neil

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This
http://abpr2.railfan.net/abprphoto.c...ddington_1.jpg
was buzzing back and forth through Cheddington on 7th November.



Gavin Hamilton[_2_] November 30th 08 02:17 PM

Southern East Croydon to Milton Keynes service issues
 
Neil Williams wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:50:11 +0000, Gavin Hamilton
wrote:

Saw one stopping at Leighton Buzzard (north bound) on Thursday...


You sure it wasn't a Desiro? The service hasn't started yet.

Unless it was a crew-training run, I guess.

Neil


Definitely Southern colours so not an EMT desiro..

G

[email protected] November 30th 08 03:49 PM

Southern East Croydon to Milton Keynes service issues
 
On 30 Nov, 15:17, Gavin Hamilton
wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:50:11 +0000, Gavin Hamilton
wrote:


Saw one stopping at Leighton Buzzard (north bound) on Thursday...


You sure it wasn't a Desiro? *The service hasn't started yet.


Unless it was a crew-training run, I guess.


Neil


Definitely Southern colours so not an EMT desiro..

G


EMT aren't getting any Desiros - you presumably mean LM Desiro?

Tony

No Name November 30th 08 04:42 PM

Southern East Croydon to Milton Keynes service issues
 
In article ,
Gavin Hamilton wrote:
Saw one stopping at Leighton Buzzard (north bound) on Thursday...


You sure it wasn't a Desiro? The service hasn't started yet.

Unless it was a crew-training run, I guess.

Neil


Definitely Southern colours so not an EMT desiro..


I can see the WCML at Hemel Hempstead from my window, and I see 377s going
past on most weekdays. Presumably, they are training runs for the new
service.

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Gavin Hamilton[_2_] December 1st 08 07:47 PM

Southern East Croydon to Milton Keynes service issues
 
wrote:
On 30 Nov, 15:17, Gavin Hamilton
wrote:
Neil Williams wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:50:11 +0000, Gavin Hamilton
wrote:
Saw one stopping at Leighton Buzzard (north bound) on Thursday...
You sure it wasn't a Desiro? The service hasn't started yet.
Unless it was a crew-training run, I guess.
Neil

Definitely Southern colours so not an EMT desiro..

G


EMT aren't getting any Desiros - you presumably mean LM Desiro?

Tony


Okay - LM not EMT....

G

[email protected] December 1st 08 08:09 PM

Southern East Croydon to Milton Keynes service issues
 
They seem to have got over the Wembley Central issue by making the
service pick up or set down only, according to direction.


[email protected] December 16th 08 08:48 PM

Southern East Croydon to Milton Keynes service issues
 
On Dec 1, 9:09*pm, wrote:
They seem to have got over the Wembley Central issue by making the
service pick up or set down only, according to direction.


So going north, one can alight only at Wembley central? Can one board
and alight at Harrow?


So poor chap travelling from Wembley to MKC has to change, even though
there is a perfectly good direct train that will go between the two?


Will anything use Watford Junction platform 10 once the service is
extended northwards? I'm guessing the Southern service will use the
usual slow platforms 8 and 9?

Paul Scott December 16th 08 08:56 PM

Southern East Croydon to Milton Keynes service issues
 
wrote:
On Dec 1, 9:09 pm, wrote:
They seem to have got over the Wembley Central issue by making the
service pick up or set down only, according to direction.


So going north, one can alight only at Wembley central? Can one board
and alight at Harrow?


According to the timetable, Yes.

Will anything use Watford Junction platform 10 once the service is
extended northwards? I'm guessing the Southern service will use the
usual slow platforms 8 and 9?


Sunday SN services only run to Watford - of course if the service is popular
that might change in future years, like the Brighton - Southampton...

Paul





Paul Scott January 21st 09 09:48 PM

Southern East Croydon to Milton Keynes service issues
 

"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...
Mr Thant wrote:


So Croydon-KO-MK itself is definitely allowed - it's only the WC calls
and the CJ starters that are in doubt.


Just keeping an eye on this 'MoC' issue, ORR have now put all the
correspondence between the various 'learned friends' up on their website.
There is a surprising amount of debate about the meaning of the word
'call', for those interested it is some way down this page, at New
Southern Railway Ltd, 27th SA:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/nav.1258


The ORR final decision on SN's MK service has now been published, approving
the Clapham Junction starting services, but no change to the Wembley Central
calls (set down pick up restrictions) as discussed previously.

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...7sa_declet.pdf

Thanks to London Reconnections for the steer. Like them, if you read the
report you may be left wondering at the effort expended in deciding what
'calls' really means...

Paul S




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