Sorry, but what's the point of it? Turning an express train into a slow
stopper for the last couple of miles?

How long does a "stop" take for the Eurostar?

Z.

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Zonky wrote:
Sorry, but what's the point of it? Turning an express train into a
slow stopper for the last couple of miles?

It's no different from WCML trains stopping at Watford Junction. It
relieves the pressure on capacity at Kings Cross St Pancras, though
presumably it will be only some trains that stop at Stratford. (Hmm, wonder
if Freedom Passes wil be accepted for Stratford-St Pancras?)

How long does a "stop" take for the Eurostar?

No longer than for any other long distance express in my experience.
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Zonky wrote:
Sorry, but what's the point of it? Turning an express train into a
slow stopper for the last couple of miles?

It's no different from WCML trains stopping at Watford Junction. It
relieves the pressure on capacity at Kings Cross St Pancras, though
presumably it will be only some trains that stop at Stratford. (Hmm,
wonder if Freedom Passes wil be accepted for Stratford-St Pancras?)

Presumably there will be no trains stopping St Pancras - Stratford -
Ashford - Calais - Lille - Gare Du Nord !

Still, for an express long distance service, it does seem silly to add the
short stop so close to the final destination....


How long does a "stop" take for the Eurostar?

No longer than for any other long distance express in my experience.

But in context of a train passing through without stopping? 3-4 minutes is
reasonable?

Z.



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In message , Zonky
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Still, for an express long distance service, it does seem silly to add the
short stop so close to the final destination....

In addition to all the tube (and DLR) links mentioned, an international
station at Stratford means that Eurostar passengers to/from many parts
of Essex and East Anglia do not have to go to central London to change.

When Crossrail is built, it will mean that Eurostar passengers to/from
the west of London won't need to change in central London.

And if the proposed plan to run Eurostar services on the west coast
mainline materialises, Stratford will be the only London stop.

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In addition to all the tube (and DLR) links mentioned, an international
station at Stratford means that Eurostar passengers to/from many parts
of Essex and East Anglia do not have to go to central London to change.

When Crossrail is built, it will mean that Eurostar passengers to/from
the west of London won't need to change in central London.

And if the proposed plan to run Eurostar services on the west coast
mainline materialises, Stratford will be the only London stop.

It'll be the new Clapham Junction.

Peter

"AstraVanMan" wrote in message
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In addition to all the tube (and DLR) links mentioned, an international
station at Stratford means that Eurostar passengers to/from many parts
of Essex and East Anglia do not have to go to central London to change.

When Crossrail is built, it will mean that Eurostar passengers to/from
the west of London won't need to change in central London.

And if the proposed plan to run Eurostar services on the west coast
mainline materialises, Stratford will be the only London stop.

It'll be the new Clapham Junction.

Indeed.

Willesden Junction could be turned into one too: build new platforms on the
main WCML lines and maybe even the GWML (as it passes so close). With
Crossrail 1 passing through, as well as all the GWML and WCML traffic, and
the Bakerloo and North London Lines (Orbirail by then?), you'd have a decent
hub for West London with connections to Gatwick (South Central), Heathrow
(Crossrail), the west (GWML), the north and midlands (WCML), and lots of
London. If NoL Eurostar services ever start, this would be an ideal
additional or alternative stop to Stratford. And a useful place to start
the HSL to the north.

With the ELL (and hence the creation of a true Orbirail service), and the
addition of Met and Chiltern platforms turning West Hampstead into more of a
hub, you'd have a decent inner-London hub network linked by the Orbirail
network and tube/Crossrail/Thameslink connections into the centre.

Or maybe I'm just dreaming... :-)

Angus

"AstraVanMan" wrote in message
...
In addition to all the tube (and DLR) links mentioned, an international
station at Stratford means that Eurostar passengers to/from many parts
of Essex and East Anglia do not have to go to central London to change.

When Crossrail is built, it will mean that Eurostar passengers to/from
the west of London won't need to change in central London.

And if the proposed plan to run Eurostar services on the west coast
mainline materialises, Stratford will be the only London stop.

It'll be the new Clapham Junction.

So what will they do with the old one?

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 14:23:55 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:
Zonky wrote:
Sorry, but what's the point of it? Turning an express train into a
slow stopper for the last couple of miles?

It's no different from WCML trains stopping at Watford Junction. It
relieves the pressure on capacity at Kings Cross St Pancras, though
presumably it will be only some trains that stop at Stratford.

Plus Stratford is on the Central, Jubilee & DLR - St Pancras isn't.
Yes, most newbies and tourists won't appreciate that but I imagine a
lot of more regular users of the service would.

Sam
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:48:59 +0100, Sam Holloway
wrote:



Plus Stratford is on the Central, Jubilee & DLR - St Pancras isn't.
Yes, most newbies and tourists won't appreciate that but I imagine a
lot of more regular users of the service would.

Wheras St Pancras is only on the Met, H&C, Circle, Northern,
Piccadilly and Victoria lines?

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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:48:59 +0100, Sam Holloway
wrote:



Plus Stratford is on the Central, Jubilee & DLR - St Pancras isn't.
Yes, most newbies and tourists won't appreciate that but I imagine a
lot of more regular users of the service would.

Wheras St Pancras is only on the Met, H&C, Circle, Northern,
Piccadilly and Victoria lines?

Not a lot of help if you don't live on them. For a lot of people whose
local station is on the Central, Jubilee or DLR (and I'm one such
person) Stratford is a much more convenient place to get to.

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