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So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

Thx, *Phil

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

On 4 Dec, 14:27, wrote:
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So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

Thx, *Phil

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. *Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

No, I'll be buying a ticket on the day. I have a Network Card so it
doesn't make much difference what I get (the min fare is £10, a
discounted £16.00 fare will cost me about £10.70, and a discounted
Travelcard is £11.30 IIRC) but I was interested in why a return to
Shep Bush via CJn was so expensive compared with a return to Waterloo
plus travelcard, or indeed a return to CJn plus CJn/SB return (or even
Oyster). It's doubly annoying if it isn't on the SWT ticket machine
as I'll have to go to the station when it's actually open, which is
getting rarer.

On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, wrote:
So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. *Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

*waves*.

Fleet to London Terminals tickets are routed by maps CS and WR, or by
map WX. Map WX covers Fleet to Clapham Junction (it's basically the
SWT map), but not beyond - it only gets you into Waterloo or Victoria.

Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and
Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia
and Clapham into Waterloo. If you were to go this way, and catch one
of the occasional XC services that takes the route, then this'd get
you as far as Olympia... however, you'd still have to pay gbp3 for the
return Olympia-Shepherds Bush fare, as well as taking a ridiculous
route.

So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a
Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward.
No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

On 4 Dec, 14:51, John B wrote:
On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, wrote:

Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and
Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia
and Clapham into Waterloo.

Thx. I thought it might be valid on the WLL, I think I might have
used my old season ticket to Olympia before, hadn't really realised
that was where the validity ended.

So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a
Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward.

I'm on a Network card so it will be a £16 return or a travelcard.

No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'.

It looks like there are now only TfL fares on that route, not NR ones,
and you can't combine them with a super off peak.

So for some reason it seems you can book "anytime return to CJ +
anytime return from CJ to SB" or "off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB" but not "super off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB".

The NRE website doesn't give the London Stations fare for Olympia
either.

Oh how I miss my season ticket, it was all much easier then!
(Especially now you can use Oyster on the WLL)

In article
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() wrote:

It looks like there are now only TfL fares on that route, not NR ones,
and you can't combine them with a super off peak.

So for some reason it seems you can book "anytime return to CJ +
anytime return from CJ to SB" or "off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB" but not "super off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB".

The NRE website doesn't give the London Stations fare for Olympia
either.

More collapsing fare integration inside and outside of London! Given how
much we outside London pay to subsidise TfL and NR services in London it's
a scandal!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:
In article
,
() wrote:

It looks like there are now only TfL fares on that route, not NR
ones, and you can't combine them with a super off peak.

So for some reason it seems you can book "anytime return to CJ +
anytime return from CJ to SB" or "off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB" but not "super off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB".

The NRE website doesn't give the London Stations fare for Olympia
either.

More collapsing fare integration inside and outside of London! Given
how much we outside London pay to subsidise TfL and NR services in
London it's a scandal!

The previous poster was wrong Colin, Anytime and Offpeak through fares are
available as per normal, it is only the SWT specific SOP that isn't.

Paul S

In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

wrote:
In article
,
() wrote:

It looks like there are now only TfL fares on that route, not NR
ones, and you can't combine them with a super off peak.

So for some reason it seems you can book "anytime return to CJ +
anytime return from CJ to SB" or "off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB" but not "super off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB".

The NRE website doesn't give the London Stations fare for Olympia
either.

More collapsing fare integration inside and outside of London! Given
how much we outside London pay to subsidise TfL and NR services in
London it's a scandal!

The previous poster was wrong Colin, Anytime and Offpeak through
fares are available as per normal, it is only the SWT specific SOP
that isn't.

Doesn't alter my complaint, that once you cross TOC boundaries, fare
integration goes pear shaped.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:

The NRE website doesn't give the London Stations fare for Olympia
either.

If you mean the 'London Terminals' fare, that'll be because Kensington
Olympia isn't a member of the 'London Terminals' fares group. Changed in
the mid 90s IIRC.

Kenny O is however a valid interchange for cross London NR/LU/NR transfer.

Paul S

In message
John B wrote:

On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, wrote:
So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. *Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

*waves*.

Fleet to London Terminals tickets are routed by maps CS and WR, or by
map WX. Map WX covers Fleet to Clapham Junction (it's basically the
SWT map), but not beyond - it only gets you into Waterloo or Victoria.

Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and
Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia
and Clapham into Waterloo. If you were to go this way, and catch one
of the occasional XC services that takes the route, then this'd get
you as far as Olympia... however, you'd still have to pay gbp3 for the
return Olympia-Shepherds Bush fare, as well as taking a ridiculous
route.

So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a
Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward.
No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'.


Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then
Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. Shepherds Bush
is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't fancy
walking back there from TVC after dark.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
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John B wrote:

On Dec 4, 2:27 pm, wrote:
So what is the cheapest fare? Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

*waves*.

Fleet to London Terminals tickets are routed by maps CS and WR, or by
map WX. Map WX covers Fleet to Clapham Junction (it's basically the
SWT map), but not beyond - it only gets you into Waterloo or Victoria.

Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and
Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia
and Clapham into Waterloo. If you were to go this way, and catch one
of the occasional XC services that takes the route, then this'd get
you as far as Olympia... however, you'd still have to pay gbp3 for the
return Olympia-Shepherds Bush fare, as well as taking a ridiculous
route.

So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a
Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward.
No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'.


Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then
Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. Shepherds
Bush
is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't
fancy
walking back there from TVC after dark.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

It's counter intuitive but how about Waterloo, Bakerloo or Jubilee to Baker
St then Hammersmith and City to the new station that I can't remember the
name of?

Google

Wood Lane, that's the one.

Or...

Vauxhall, Victoria Line to Victoria, District to Hammersmith H and C to Wood
Lane?