On Nov 22, 12:37*pm, MIG wrote:
On Nov 22, 8:27*pm, CJB wrote:

The Bakerloo line now stops at Harrow & Wealdstone. However some north
bound stations still have old enamelled signs with stations beyond
blanked out. What were these stations, and did the deep-level trains
run through or was there an interchange somewhere for trains of
surface loading guage? Was this extenstion beyond H&W electrified?
When did it close? Cheers - CJB.

The Bakerloos used to run through to Watford Junction. *The fourth
rail is not usable as such beyond Harrow and Wealdstone, but it's
still there performing some electrical function which someone will
explain in a minute.

There have been a few changes. *They only used to go beyond Queens
Park in the peaks, but went all the way to Watford.

Later they were cut back to Stonebridge Park (I think possibly more
than just the peaks; someone will confirm) which was where a new depot
was built when the branch that gave access to Neasden became part of
the Jubilee.

For quite a few years now they've been running to Harrow and
Wealdstone quite frequently and all day, so really the service is
dramatically better than it was between Queens Park and Harrow (I
think it had been four trains an hour from Euston).

The platforms on the Watford DC lines were a compromise between tube
height and surface height. I presume the Harrow and the ones south of
Harrow still are. But, if the Bakerloo trains are to run north of
Harrow again, my guess is that platform height might be a Health and
Safety issue.

On 18 Dec, 17:12, 1506 wrote:
On Nov 22, 12:37*pm, MIG wrote:





On Nov 22, 8:27*pm, CJB wrote:

The Bakerloo line now stops at Harrow & Wealdstone. However some north
bound stations still have old enamelled signs with stations beyond
blanked out. What were these stations, and did the deep-level trains
run through or was there an interchange somewhere for trains of
surface loading guage? Was this extenstion beyond H&W electrified?
When did it close? Cheers - CJB.

The Bakerloos used to run through to Watford Junction. *The fourth
rail is not usable as such beyond Harrow and Wealdstone, but it's
still there performing some electrical function which someone will
explain in a minute.

There have been a few changes. *They only used to go beyond Queens
Park in the peaks, but went all the way to Watford.

Later they were cut back to Stonebridge Park (I think possibly more
than just the peaks; someone will confirm) which was where a new depot
was built when the branch that gave access to Neasden became part of
the Jubilee.

For quite a few years now they've been running to Harrow and
Wealdstone quite frequently and all day, so really the service is
dramatically better than it was between Queens Park and Harrow (I
think it had been four trains an hour from Euston).

The platforms on the Watford DC lines were a compromise between tube
height and surface height. *I presume the Harrow and the ones south of
Harrow still are. *But, if the Bakerloo trains are to run north of
Harrow again, my guess is that platform height might be a Health and
Safety issue.

My impression (without taking a tape measure) of using Kensal Green
quite a lot was that the step down into a Bakerloo was less than the
step up into a 313/508, but the platform height is between the two as
you say.

If that impression is correct, and if all platforms are similar (both
not very safe assumptions) then the Bakerloos might less of a hazard
than the existing trains. After all, it's easier to fall into the gap
under a train that's too high.