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My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!

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My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!

THC


It is regularly used on trains entering Victoria Eastern. Strangely, since
we are on the train, it says "mind the gap between the platform and the
train". Wrong way round!

MaxB


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On 22 Jan, 09:34, "Batman55" wrote:
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My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!


THC


It is regularly used on trains entering Victoria Eastern. Strangely, since
we are on the train, it says "mind the gap between the platform and the
train". Wrong way round!


I was on a Southeastern train passing through the Brixton area, on its
way to Victoria, when the announcement said "We will shortly be
arriving at Cannon Street. Please mind the gap ... etc".

It was a very big gap.
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It was a very big gap.


I've heard it said, just before he went out to lunch, by the manager of a
well-known high-street clothing store to an underling.

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"THC" wrote in message
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My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!

THC


It is used in various places worldwide, including Sydney. Though apparently
in the USA you don't mind it, you watch it.
See http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Mind_the_gap
For the Sydney example see
http://www.cityrail.info/training_ru...ning_rules.jsp

I was intrigued when visiting New York a couple of years back with the "gap
filler" arrangements at South Ferry subway station, which was on an
extremely sharp curve and could only handle the front half of a train. I
believe the station has just been rebuilt to eliminate this curve. See
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/stations?6:2678

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia




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On Jan 22, 9:50*pm, "David Bennetts"
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My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!


THC


It is used in various places worldwide, including Sydney. *Though apparently
in the USA you don't mind it, you watch it.
Seehttp://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Mind_the_gap
For the Sydney example seehttp://www.cityrail.info/training_rules/training_rules.jsp

I was intrigued when visiting New York a couple of years back with the "gap
filler" arrangements at South Ferry subway station, which was on an
extremely sharp curve and could only handle the front half of a train. *I
believe the station has just been rebuilt to eliminate this curve. *Seehttp://www.nycsubway.org/perl/stations?6:2678

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia


Do they actually make an announcement in Sydney? I've never heard it,
but then again I am an infrequent visitor.

John
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David Bennetts wrote:

I was intrigued when visiting New York a couple of years back with the "gap
filler" arrangements at South Ferry subway station, which was on an
extremely sharp curve and could only handle the front half of a train. I
believe the station has just been rebuilt to eliminate this curve. See
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/stations?6:2678


It has not been rebuilt. Rather, a new two-track terminal station has
been built essentially underneath it. The new station has not yet
opened, but when it does open, the old station will be decommissioned.

The old trackage will still be used, as it provides a valuable track
connection between the West Side IRT (1/2/3) and East Side IRT (4/5/6).
It also has an inner loop track, which only connects to the East Side
and is used to turn East Side trains that terminate at Bowling Green
(mostly off-peak 5 trains). The inner loop has its own platform, which
was used until the 70's by a shuttle train to Bowling Green.

Gap fillers remain in use at Union Square (southbound 4/5/6 platform)
and at Times Square (shuttle). And there will still be one station that
can only accommodate half of a train: 145 St on the 3.
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA
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On Jan 25, 2:39*am, David of Broadway
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David Bennetts wrote:
I was intrigued when visiting New York a couple of years back with the "gap
filler" arrangements at South Ferry subway station, which was on an
extremely sharp curve and could only handle the front half of a train. *I
believe the station has just been rebuilt to eliminate this curve. *See
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/stations?6:2678


It has not been rebuilt. *Rather, a new two-track terminal station has
been built essentially underneath it. *The new station has not yet
opened, but when it does open, the old station will be decommissioned.

The old trackage will still be used, as it provides a valuable track
connection between the West Side IRT (1/2/3) and East Side IRT (4/5/6).
* It also has an inner loop track, which only connects to the East Side
and is used to turn East Side trains that terminate at Bowling Green
(mostly off-peak 5 trains). *The inner loop has its own platform, which
was used until the 70's by a shuttle train to Bowling Green.

Gap fillers remain in use at Union Square (southbound 4/5/6 platform)
and at Times Square (shuttle). *And there will still be one station that
can only accommodate half of a train: 145 St on the 3.
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA


Ah! Do i spot a fellow fan of the NY subway? Your knowledge is far
more encyclopedic than mine so thank you for that thorough
explanation. BTW photos of the new South Ferry station can be seen
here

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/foru...1b091& t=7597

Paul
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01:26:12 on Thu, 22 Jan 2009, THC remarked:
My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!


On the Midland Mainline there are several stations where the guards
announce "mind the gap between the train and the platform edge".
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Roland Perry
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Roland Perry wrote:

On the Midland Mainline there are several stations where the guards
announce "mind the gap between the train and the platform edge".


And "mind the gap" is painted on the platform edge at Market Harborough.

Mind you, less of a gap and more of a jump. There must be 18" vertical
between step and platform. How come the two are so far out of alignment?




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