If Boris does get his way and boot all the bendies out of london where
would they go? Theres a lot of them, they can't be sold off in europe
because they're RHD, they're far too new to scrap and they're really
only suitable for a city enviroment. Are there any other cities that
they could be effectively used in?

B2003

wrote:
If Boris does get his way and boot all the bendies out of london where
would they go? Theres a lot of them, they can't be sold off in europe
because they're RHD, they're far too new to scrap and they're really
only suitable for a city enviroment. Are there any other cities that
they could be effectively used in?

B2003

Newer ones could theoretically replace older bendies on routes in London
(remember there'll still be a need for 100-odd bendies by the 2012
Mayoral campaign, so Boris isn't removing bendies any more than
Livingstone removed Routemasters). I'll stick my neck out and say
there'll be a damn sight more bendies in service on the date of the next
Mayoral election than Routemasters old or new.

Plenty of other cities in the UK have bendies now, remember the Bendy
Myths all date from about 2005, when this wasn't the case so much.
Indeed, one of the refutations of the policy is that the Jihad is purely
London-specific and exists in a mainly political context - no one uses
major newspapers to attack private companies putting bendy buses on the
streets of Swansea (although there are doubtless pro- and anti-
campaigners, there's nothing like the heat and gibberish produced in
London).

Tom

wrote:
If Boris does get his way and boot all the bendies out of london where
would they go? Theres a lot of them, they can't be sold off in europe
because they're RHD, they're far too new to scrap and they're really
only suitable for a city enviroment. Are there any other cities that
they could be effectively used in?

When the 453 changed hands last year, some went to 'top up' other bendy
routes (most run by other companies), a few went to the Stratford Olympic
site as a worker mover (painted white), while some are still in store.

It has been suggested that they might go to Malta, and other Right-hand
drive countries are a possibility.

As has been said, several UK cities use or have used bendies; First has many
inferior bendies in Yorkshire (The sad claustrophobic Wrightbus that
pretends to be a tram and has conductors because the autoticket machines
don't work!), so any rival who introduced Citaros would clean up!

Worth pointing out that most of the bendies are not owned by operators, but
leased for the period of the contract, so final destination does not depend
on staying 'within the company', which is a boon for Go-Ahead and Arriva,
neither of whom have many urban areas that could take them.

Don't worry about the doors; it's very common for ex-London buses to have a
door or two removed and extra seats inserted - the problem may be that the
door they'd want to seal (the middle doors - not the rear doors), is the one
with the ramp. Most two-door bendies have the ramp at the front, I believe.
I don't know where the Wright "Streetcar" (yecch!) has its ramp; probably on
the roof, disguised as a pantograph.
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Andrew
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"If A is success in life, then A = x + y + z.
Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut." ~ Albert Einstein

Andrew Heenan wrote:
wrote:
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Don't worry about the doors; it's very common for ex-London buses to have a
door or two removed and extra seats inserted - the problem may be that the
door they'd want to seal (the middle doors - not the rear doors), is the one
with the ramp. Most two-door bendies have the ramp at the front, I believe.

snip

This also would not be a problem as the ramp is modular (made by MBB)
and can easily be removed and relocated.

Bob

"TroyTempest" wrote:
Don't worry about the doors; it's very common for ex-London buses to have
a door or two removed and extra seats inserted - the problem may be that
the door they'd want to seal (the middle doors - not the rear doors), is
the one with the ramp. Most two-door bendies have the ramp at the front,
I believe.
This also would not be a problem as the ramp is modular (made by MBB) and
can easily be removed and relocated.

Thanks for that - shame the cab isn't too - then they could get work in
Europe!

;o)


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Andrew

In article , (Andrew
Heenan) wrote:

"TroyTempest" wrote:
Don't worry about the doors; it's very common for ex-London buses to
have a door or two removed and extra seats inserted - the problem
may be that the door they'd want to seal (the middle doors - not the
rear doors), is the one with the ramp. Most two-door bendies have
the ramp at the front, I believe.
This also would not be a problem as the ramp is modular (made by
MBB) and can easily be removed and relocated.

Thanks for that - shame the cab isn't too - then they could get
work in Europe!

;o)

London is in Europe.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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If Boris does get his way and boot all the bendies out of london where
would they go? Theres a lot of them, they can't be sold off in europe
because they're RHD, they're far too new to scrap and they're really
only suitable for a city enviroment. Are there any other cities that
they could be effectively used in?

They're already used in a number of other UK cities, particularly by
Arriva and Go-Ahead.

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Paul Terry

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:53:55 +0000, Paul Terry
wrote:

They're already used in a number of other UK cities, particularly by
Arriva and Go-Ahead.

Where do Arriva use them? I thought First was the most prolific user
of them.

Neil

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On 22 Jan, 19:39, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:53:55 +0000, Paul Terry

wrote:
They're already used in a number of other UK cities, particularly by
Arriva and Go-Ahead.

Where do Arriva use them? *I thought First was the most prolific user
of them.

Neil

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I don't know of Arriva running any outside london, but Go-Ahead
definitely use them between Gateshead and the Metrocentre and IIRR at
Heathrow with their Menzies subsidiary,

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:27:21 GMT, wrote:

I have only seen First with them in London and Manchester I have never
seen Stagecoach with any they probably will get some to snarl up the
streets of Preston with once the buyout of PB is completed .

Stagecoach seem to be a fan of pretty much exclusively Alexander
Dennis products, whose range doesn't (as I recall) include a bendybus.

Neil

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