On 2/2/09 12:25, in article , "Andrew Robert
Breen" wrote:

The Great Hall at Euston is a glorious space. With some of the retail
clutter cleared away (as I hear it has been - can't wait to see the
results) it should be the magnificent, uplifting space it should be.
Lovely bit of architecture - and the materials used were superb.

Agree totally; one of the best '60s buildings in London.

It's probably the best circulating area in any station I've come across,
with the probable exception of Grand Central in Washington. Shame they
both share the problem of dark platform spaces, but that doesn't make
either of the head-houses less magnificent.

The Booking Office/Waiting Room at Newark Penn station is rather nice, as is
that at Hoboken Terminal, which reminds me somewhat of the Great Hall at the
old Euston.

Just about every American station I've seen, and I admit I haven't seen very
many, is horrible at track level. At Newark Penn the tracks are at an
elevated level, and the platforms are terrible; the edges are breaking up in
places, and have been roughly repaired by thick plates of some sort of thick
material fixed over the worst places, and providing something for people to
trip over. At EWR airport station, built just a few ears ago, the platforms
are very narrow, I would say dangerously so, where there are buildings on
them. New York Penn Station and Grand Central Terminal are both much worse
than Euston at platform level, though they are nice at concourse level.
Poughkeepsie (I'm not even sure how to pronounce that) is a nice smaller
station.

On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Stephen Furley wrote:

Just about every American station I've seen, and I admit I haven't seen very
many, is horrible at track level. At Newark Penn the tracks are at an
elevated level, and the platforms are terrible; the edges are breaking up in
places, and have been roughly repaired by thick plates of some sort of thick
material fixed over the worst places, and providing something for people to
trip over. At EWR airport station, built just a few ears ago, the platforms
are very narrow, I would say dangerously so, where there are buildings on
them. New York Penn Station and Grand Central Terminal are both much worse
than Euston at platform level, though they are nice at concourse level.
Poughkeepsie (I'm not even sure how to pronounce that) is a nice smaller
station.

I think it's somehting like "Pur-kip-see".

I didn't get off the train at Newark, but from the window it did look
like it was falling down.

NYP reminded me was a bit like a big Liverpool Street (modern looking busy
but not that exciting above the track level, and dark and dingy down by
the trains) and Grand Central Terminal has a really nice big hall, but is
truly awful at platform level.

Boston South was the best of a bad bunch at track level of the ones I went
to.
--
Chris Johns

Chris Johns gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Poughkeepsie (I'm not even sure how to pronounce that)

I think it's somehting like "Pur-kip-see".

"Pick-upsy", IIRC

"Adrian" wrote in message
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I think it's somehting like "Pur-kip-see".

"Pick-upsy", IIRC

Although I travelled through Poughkeepsie a few years ago the train wasn't
scheduled to stop so there was no announcement.

So my only reference is from the TV series Friends episode "The Girl from
Poughkeepsie" where it's pronounced "Pur-kip-see" as Adrian says

--
David

On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 23:49:32 -0000, "David Morgan"
wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
...
I think it's somehting like "Pur-kip-see".

"Pick-upsy", IIRC

Although I travelled through Poughkeepsie a few years ago the train wasn't
scheduled to stop so there was no announcement.

So my only reference is from the TV series Friends episode "The Girl from
Poughkeepsie" where it's pronounced "Pur-kip-see" as Adrian says

It's mentioned quite a few times by Gene Hackman in one scene from the
French Connection.


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On 2/2/09 14:13, in article l,
"Chris Johns" wrote:

I think it's somehting like "Pur-kip-see".

I didn't get off the train at Newark, but from the window it did look
like it was falling down.

NYP reminded me was a bit like a big Liverpool Street (modern looking busy
but not that exciting above the track level, and dark and dingy down by
the trains) and Grand Central Terminal has a really nice big hall, but is
truly awful at platform level.

Boston South was the best of a bad bunch at track level of the ones I went
to.

You didn't see the better part of Newark. I took some pictures of it a few
years ago, but due to a failed hard disk I can't start my desktop computer
at the moment, and my SCSI film scanner won't work on my laptop.

There's a picture of it he
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...8/P7140087.JPG

This is taken from the sort of shop/café area at one end; NJ Transit ticket
office and machines to left, the thing with the canopy over it is an
information kiosk. Doorway at far left leads to a passageway with stairs up
to the platforms. Out of sight to he left of this doorway is the Amtrak
ticket office. The door at the far end leads out to the buses; the
metalwork around it, aluminium I think, can also be seen elsewhere in the
station. 1937 I think; I can't remember who the architects were. It
replaced two earlier stations, Market Street for the PRR, and Park Place for
the Hudson & Manhattan, now PATH. There are various shops and eating
places, and also the entrance to the Newark City Subway, in other
passageways at concourse level.

There are some more pictures, including some of the outside he
http://www.thortrains.net/lackawanna/pennsy1.htm

They are of poor quality though.

He http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/21/re...21station.html

he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoboken_Terminal

and he http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%2...n/hoboken.html

Are pictures of the booking hall/waiting room at Hoboken Terminal. It's the
first one which reminds me somewhat of the Great Hall at the old Euston.

In article ,
Chris Johns wrote:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Stephen Furley wrote:

Just about every American station I've seen, and I admit I haven't seen very
many, is horrible at track level. At Newark Penn the tracks are at an
elevated level, and the platforms are terrible; the edges are breaking up in
places, and have been roughly repaired by thick plates of some sort of thick
material fixed over the worst places, and providing something for people to
trip over. At EWR airport station, built just a few ears ago, the platforms
are very narrow, I would say dangerously so, where there are buildings on
them. New York Penn Station and Grand Central Terminal are both much worse
than Euston at platform level, though they are nice at concourse level.
Poughkeepsie (I'm not even sure how to pronounce that) is a nice smaller
station.

I think it's somehting like "Pur-kip-see".

I didn't get off the train at Newark, but from the window it did look
like it was falling down.

NYP reminded me was a bit like a big Liverpool Street (modern looking busy
but not that exciting above the track level, and dark and dingy down by
the trains) and Grand Central Terminal has a really nice big hall, but is
truly awful at platform level.

Boston South was the best of a bad bunch at track level of the ones I went
to.

Yep. Boston South seemed the best of the bunch on the eastern corridor
when I last did the trip (gosh, about 10 years ago...). Would have liked
it to have had a circulating area as nice (and as warm) as Grand Central
(or Euston), mined. It was damned cold last time I was in Boston.

--
Andy Breen ~ Speaking for myself, not the University of Wales
"your suggestion rates at four monkeys for six weeks"
(Peter D. Rieden)