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"Mizter T" wrote:

I believe the trains actually reverse out-of-service at South Croydon, but
southbound they tip-out at East Croydon - not sure how good they are at
doing this there.


I recall one of the South London RUS recommendations regarding the
MKC-Watford-Croydon services was that of reversing at South Croydon (not
considered ideal for whatever reason but doable nonetheless), but perhaps
I simply and erroneously read into that that they'd run in service to/from
South Croydon.


http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe (Traveline North East & Cumbria) [1]
suggests that the trains use platform 5 at East Croydon in both directions,
arriving generally at xx57 and departing at xx10, so I assume they lay over
there and don't need to go to South Croydon. If I had the time, I would
check Traveline to see if any other trains are booked through platform 5 at
that time, but I currently lack the motivation to do so!

I do, however, believe you are right that there was at one time a suggestion
that these trains might run to South Croydon in service.

[1] It's bizarre that one has to use this particular resource, but other
regional Travelines don't show the platforming!

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On Feb 11, 11:35*pm, "John Salmon" wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote:
I believe the trains actually reverse out-of-service at South Croydon, but
southbound they tip-out at East Croydon - not sure how good they are at
doing this there.
I recall one of the South London RUS recommendations regarding the
MKC-Watford-Croydon services was that of reversing at South Croydon (not
considered ideal for whatever reason but doable nonetheless), but perhaps
I simply and erroneously read into that that they'd run in service to/from
South Croydon.


http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe(Traveline North East & Cumbria) [1]
suggests that the trains use platform 5 at East Croydon in both directions,
arriving generally at xx57 and departing at xx10, so I assume they lay over
there and don't need to go to South Croydon. *If I had the time, I would
check Traveline to see if any other trains are booked through platform 5 at
that time, but I currently lack the motivation to do so!


No need - the trains do indeed sit on platform 5. 6 handles almost all
down slow traffic.
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On Feb 11, 11:35 pm, "John Salmon" wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote:
I believe the trains actually reverse out-of-service at South Croydon,

but
southbound they tip-out at East Croydon - not sure how good they are at
doing this there.
I recall one of the South London RUS recommendations regarding the
MKC-Watford-Croydon services was that of reversing at South Croydon (not
considered ideal for whatever reason but doable nonetheless), but

perhaps
I simply and erroneously read into that that they'd run in service

to/from
South Croydon.


http://217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe(Traveline North East & Cumbria) [1]
suggests that the trains use platform 5 at East Croydon in both

directions,
arriving generally at xx57 and departing at xx10, so I assume they lay

over
there and don't need to go to South Croydon. If I had the time, I would
check Traveline to see if any other trains are booked through platform 5

at
that time, but I currently lack the motivation to do so!

No need - the trains do indeed sit on platform 5. 6 handles almost all
down slow traffic.


Indeed. Platforhas bor terminatinggg local trains for many years, with down
slow on 6 and up slow on 4. These don't conflict with fast line trains on 3
(down), 2 (reversible) and 1 (up), although AIUI platforms 2 - 5 are
signalled reversibly.

Peter


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"Peter Masson" wrote
[East Croydon]
Indeed. Platforhas bor terminatinggg local trains for many years, with
down
slow on 6 and up slow on 4. These don't conflict with fast line trains on
3
(down), 2 (reversible) and 1 (up), although AIUI platforms 2 - 5 are
signalled reversibly.


Indeed they are, with 3 and 4 being quite difficult to traverse in the
'wrong' direction, although I've done both of those things.
I'll still like someone to tell me how to find a train on which I can travel
northwards from platform 2 under a position 1 'feather', i.e. using the
first left-hand crossover to the up fast.

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On Feb 12, 12:56*am, "John Salmon" wrote:
"Peter Masson" wrote
[East Croydon]

Indeed. Platforhas bor terminatinggg local trains for many years, *with
down
slow on 6 and up slow on 4. These don't conflict with fast line trains on
3
(down), 2 (reversible) and 1 (up), although AIUI platforms 2 - 5 are
signalled reversibly.


Indeed they are, with 3 and 4 being quite difficult to traverse in the
'wrong' direction, although I've done both of those things.
I'll still like someone to tell me how to find a train on which I can travel
northwards from platform 2 under a position 1 'feather', i.e. using the
first left-hand crossover to the up fast.


Down from 4 was fairly common in the evening peak in the last
timetable, as the 18:20 to Three Bridges was *always* late by at least
4 mins. An enterprising signaller would then put the 18:26 Horsham in
4 (8 min gap in up trains as I recall), freeing up 3 for the 18:30
Soton/Littlehampton. On only one occasion did my train (the 18:30) use
4.


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