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On Feb 20, 10:37*am, Ganesh Sittampalam
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On 20 Feb, 09:26, wrote:

Seems that theres been a failure this morning between T123 and T5
according to the traffic news. Can't even virtually brand new signals
work without failing on this system? Whats the reason, cheap
components, poor maintenance, bad design?


Bad luck?


Luck shouldn't come into it. These systems are supposed to be
professionally built and maintained. There might be an excuse for
endless failures on older bits of the system but this was only opened
last year.

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On Feb 20, 11:27*am, wrote:
On Feb 20, 10:37*am, Ganesh Sittampalam
wrote:

On 20 Feb, 09:26, wrote:


Seems that theres been a failure this morning between T123 and T5
according to the traffic news. Can't even virtually brand new signals
work without failing on this system? Whats the reason, cheap
components, poor maintenance, bad design?


Bad luck?


Luck shouldn't come into it. These systems are supposed to be
professionally built and maintained. There might be an excuse for
endless failures on older bits of the system but this was only opened
last year.


You can reduce failure rates with high quality production and
maintenance, but you can't eliminate them. A single failure doesn't
tell you much about the quality of the underlying system.

Ganesh
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On Feb 22, 12:41*pm, Ganesh Sittampalam
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You can reduce failure rates with high quality production and
maintenance, but you can't eliminate them. A single failure doesn't
tell you much about the quality of the underlying system.


No , but constant failures all the time does.

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On 23 Feb, 09:55, wrote:
On Feb 22, 12:41*pm, Ganesh Sittampalam
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You can reduce failure rates with high quality production and
maintenance, but you can't eliminate them. A single failure doesn't
tell you much about the quality of the underlying system.


No , but constant failures all the time does.


I wasn't aware that the new signalling on the network had been
suffering from constant failures.

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On Feb 23, 11:50*am, Ganesh Sittampalam
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On 23 Feb, 09:55, wrote:

On Feb 22, 12:41*pm, Ganesh Sittampalam
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You can reduce failure rates with high quality production and
maintenance, but you can't eliminate them. A single failure doesn't
tell you much about the quality of the underlying system.


No , but constant failures all the time does.


I wasn't aware that the new signalling on the network had been
suffering from constant failures.


The JLE was doing quite a nice job of regular fsck ups until recently.

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"Ganesh Sittampalam" wrote :
No , but constant failures all the time does.


I wasn't aware that the new signalling on the network
had been suffering from constant failures.


I think Boltar was refering to her brain, not the Picc.
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On Feb 23, 4:32*pm, "Andrew Heenan" wrote:
I think Boltar was refering to her brain, not the Picc.


Oh dear, were you too late for Madam Za Za's then? Perhaps you tried
#34 of your flaming guide on her and got a boot up the backside?
Possibly not quite what you were hoping for?

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