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On the Down platform next to the PERTIS machine (Brixton has no proper
ticket machine). A sign that Southeastern and Boris have reached some
sort of agreement?


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On 10 Mar, 08:40, Rupert Candy
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On the Down platform next to the PERTIS machine (Brixton has no proper
ticket machine). A sign thatSoutheasternand Boris have reached some
sort of agreement?

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Current nearest station: Wandsworth Rd


In the past couple of days, several of the stations on the Hayes Line
have just had readers installed - if the money's being spent on
infrastructure, then full implementation can only be a few months away.
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On May 7, 1:03*am, Tangent wrote:
On 10 Mar, 08:40, Rupert Candy
wrote:

On the Down platform next to the PERTIS machine (Brixton has no proper
ticket machine). A sign thatSoutheasternand Boris have reached some
sort of agreement?


--
Current nearest station: Wandsworth Rd


In the past couple of days, several of the stations on the Hayes Line
have just had readers installed - if the money's being spent on
infrastructure, then full implementation can only be a few months away.


Are these all standalone readers or gates?
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On May 7, 7:16*am, MIG wrote:

On May 7, 1:03*am, Tangent wrote:

On 10 Mar, 08:40, Rupert Candy
wrote:


On the Down platform next to the PERTIS machine (Brixton has no
proper ticket machine). A sign that Southeastern and Boris have
reached some sort of agreement?



In the past couple of days, several of the stations on the Hayes Line
have just had readers installed - if the money's being spent on
infrastructure, then full implementation can only be a few months away.


Are these all standalone readers or gates?


They'll be standalone readers.
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On May 7, 1:03*am, Tangent wrote:

On 10 Mar, 08:40, Rupert Candy
wrote:

On the Down platform next to the PERTIS machine (Brixton has no
proper ticket machine). A sign that Southeastern and Boris have
reached some sort of agreement?


In the past couple of days, several of the stations on the Hayes Line
have just had readers installed - if the money's being spent on
infrastructure, then full implementation can only be a few months away.


Oyster PAYG on NR is coming eventually, no doubt, but I wouldn't get
too excited about it's imminent arrival just yet - some Southern
stations have had standalone Oyster readers at the ready, but
crucially *not* in use, since September 2008 (if not earlier).

I've seen some talk that it'll be 2010 before NR accepts Oyster PAYG
across all routes in London. It seems unlikely that individual TOCs
will go ahead and accept Oyster before others do, especially south of
the river where the routes of different TOCs are all so interconnected
with each other. All the TOCs will leap together on this one now
(including SWT, who were apparently being obstinate for a period).
Boris, like Ken beforehand, has been yelling "jump" at them for ages,
but they're an uncooperative bunch!


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On 7 May, 07:16, MIG wrote:
On May 7, 1:03 am, Tangent wrote:



Are these all standalone readers or gates?


As Mizter T says - providing gates at all of the stations would
probably mean significant construction work, or the loss of additional
access points. It'd probably be cheaper in the short term to have one
RPO manning the exits.

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On May 7, 11:01*am, Mizter T wrote:
On May 7, 1:03*am, Tangent wrote:

On 10 Mar, 08:40, Rupert Candy
wrote:


On the Down platform next to the PERTIS machine (Brixton has no
proper ticket machine). A sign that Southeastern and Boris have
reached some sort of agreement?


In the past couple of days, several of the stations on the Hayes Line
have just had readers installed - if the money's being spent on
infrastructure, then full implementation can only be a few months away.


Oyster PAYG on NR is coming eventually, no doubt, but I wouldn't get
too excited about it's imminent arrival just yet - some Southern
stations have had standalone Oyster readers at the ready, but
crucially *not* in use, since September 2008 (if not earlier).

I've seen some talk that it'll be 2010 before NR accepts Oyster PAYG
across all routes in London. It seems unlikely that individual TOCs
will go ahead and accept Oyster before others do, especially south of
the river where the routes of different TOCs are all so interconnected
with each other. All the TOCs will leap together on this one now
(including SWT, who were apparently being obstinate for a period).
Boris, like Ken beforehand, has been yelling "jump" at them for ages,
but they're an uncooperative bunch!


Well, well Mizter T it seems you have the ability to predict the
future!

London Travelwatch have gone in to angry mode about NR PAYG being
delayed until 2010.

http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk/news.php?id=646

A bit more here in terms of a TfL response.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8047268.stm

I wonder when the next set of Mayor's questions is? I think we can
predict what might form part of the list of questions. The response
will also be interested because there has been no definitive statement
that a formal agreement has actually been signed off by all of the
parties. In addition it's quite likely that commercial and technical
issues are now starting to "collide" resulting in changes to the scope
of the software thus delaying development, testing and deployment.

Interesting times ahead.

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On Wed, 13 May 2009 05:28:06 -0700 (PDT), plcd1
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Well, well Mizter T it seems you have the ability to predict the
future!

London Travelwatch have gone in to angry mode about NR PAYG being
delayed until 2010.


Mizter T's crystal ball seems to be in perfect working order!

Oyster has existed for years now: could the government have used that
time to plan ahead and pass legislation, if necessary, to force
universal acceptance of PAYG? Another argument for TfL to manage the
trains in London...

What will Boris have to say about it?

Richard.
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On 7 May, 07:16, MIG wrote:
On May 7, 1:03 am, Tangent wrote:


Are these all standalone readers or gates?


As Mizter T says - providing gates at all of the stations would
probably mean significant construction work, or the loss of additional
access points. It'd probably be cheaper in the short term to have one
RPO manning the exits.


Is that what those readers are for at stations on South West Trains? They
are mainly covered these days, but I have seen a few that are uncovered.






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