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Since Blackfriars is going to be closed for a considerable length of time,
almost three years, will LUL put up partitions at the platform edges and
allow trains to run through there at speed? What would it take to reset
the start signals to normal waysides, since now they are in essence draw
ups.


I've read that a 'steel framed box' is being built to allow building work to
proceed 24/7 around the running railway. No idea about the signalling,
although you would have to assume that the timescales would allow some
changes to be worthwhile.

Has anyone any idea where the displaced passengers have ended up, the advice
seems to be to either walk to Mansion House or Temple, or stay on train
until City Thameslink.

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I've read that a 'steel framed box' is being built to allow building work
to proceed 24/7 around the running railway. No idea about the signalling,
although you would have to assume that the timescales would allow some
changes to be worthwhile.


What would it take to reset a starter signal to a standard wayside

Has anyone any idea where the displaced passengers have ended up, the
advice seems to be to either walk to Mansion House or Temple,


Whichever is closer, I supppose.

or stay on train until City Thameslink.


Are you referring to FCC Thameslink services when you you say this? The two
stations are literally within sight of each other. It would not surprise me
to find out that this is the shortest distance between two stations on
National Rail, though I don't know.


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I've read that a 'steel framed box' is being built to allow building work
to proceed 24/7 around the running railway. No idea about the signalling,
although you would have to assume that the timescales would allow some
changes to be worthwhile.


What would it take to reset a starter signal to a standard wayside

Has anyone any idea where the displaced passengers have ended up, the
advice seems to be to either walk to Mansion House or Temple,


Whichever is closer, I supppose.


More or less the same distance, so Mansion House for eastbound, Temple for
westbound (District/Circle in both cases, of course).

But isn't Mansion House closed at weekends? And if so, wouldn't it be a good
idea to open it during the Blackfriars closure?

With Cannon Street also closed at weekends, it will be fast from Temple to
Monument :-)

or stay on train until City Thameslink.


For anyone originally intending to change to the Underground at Blackfriars,
that is just duff advice.

Regards

Jonathan


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I've read that a 'steel framed box' is being built to allow building
work to proceed 24/7 around the running railway. No idea about the
signalling, although you would have to assume that the timescales
would allow some changes to be worthwhile.


What would it take to reset a starter signal to a standard wayside

Has anyone any idea where the displaced passengers have ended up,
the advice seems to be to either walk to Mansion House or Temple,


Whichever is closer, I supppose.


More or less the same distance, so Mansion House for eastbound, Temple
for westbound (District/Circle in both cases, of course).

But isn't Mansion House closed at weekends? And if so, wouldn't it be
a good idea to open it during the Blackfriars closure?

With Cannon Street also closed at weekends, it will be fast from
Temple to Monument :-)


Mansion House does not close at weekends, only Cannon Street.

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On Mar 14, 11:00 pm, "Peter Smyth" wrote:

But isn't Mansion House closed at weekends? And if so, wouldn't it be
a good idea to open it during the Blackfriars closure?


With Cannon Street also closed at weekends, it will be fast from
Temple to Monument :-)


Mansion House does not close at weekends, only Cannon Street.


Cannon Street closes only Sundays, it is open 0730-1930 Saturdays.

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On Mar 15, 12:16*am, wrote:
On Mar 14, 11:00 pm, "Peter Smyth" wrote:

But isn't Mansion House closed at weekends? And if so, wouldn't it be
a good idea to open it during the Blackfriars closure?
With Cannon Street also closed at weekends, it will be fast from
Temple to Monument :-)

Mansion House does not close at weekends, only Cannon Street.


Cannon Street closes only Sundays, it is open 0730-1930 Saturdays.

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Has it been open longer during the Bank interchange nonsense?
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Mansion House does not close at weekends, only Cannon Street.


In which case I stand corrected - unlike TfL's website, which states that
the ticket office at Mansion House is closed on Saturdays and Sundays. Or
are they saying that the station is open but the ticket office is closed?

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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:36:36 -0000, "Jonathan Morton"
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In which case I stand corrected - unlike TfL's website, which states that
the ticket office at Mansion House is closed on Saturdays and Sundays. Or
are they saying that the station is open but the ticket office is closed?


I think so, yes.

I've never quite understood the point of having both Cannon St and
Monument - they're so close together.

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"Neil Williams" wrote

I've never quite understood the point of having both Cannon St and
Monument - they're so close together.

Cannon Street for interchange with Southeastern; Monument for interchange
with Bank when all the escalators are working it's quite a good interchange
with the Northern Line, and better than Tower Hill/Tower Gateway for
connecting to the DLR.

Peter


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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:36:36 -0000, "Jonathan Morton"
wrote:

In which case I stand corrected - unlike TfL's website, which states that
the ticket office at Mansion House is closed on Saturdays and Sundays. Or
are they saying that the station is open but the ticket office is closed?


I think so, yes.

I've never quite understood the point of having both Cannon St and
Monument - they're so close together.


In fact Mansion House, Cannon Street, Monument and Bank are all very close.
Obviously we know that Monument and Bank are connected because the Northern
Line platforms are on King William Street - in effect between Monument and
the rest of Bank. I guess that's the reason for Monument continuing to
exist. Cannon Street at least has a link to a main line station.

To be fair, the proliferation of stations in the City doesn't really do any
harm, and it does allow one to use the correct Underground technique of
walking slightly further if it avoids a change. I remember my brother's
technique in the early 80s. His nearest station was Holland Park and he
worked at St Paul's. Normally, therefore, a Central Line journey. But during
the early 80s strikes he would walk to Notting Hill Gate, stand on the
bridge over the tracks, and take the first Circle Line train to appear in
either direction - getting off at Farringdon or Blackfriars as the case may
be.

Regards

Jonathan




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