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![]() On 26 Mar, 09:13, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 19:18:21 on Wed, 25 Mar 2009, MLD remarked: Walk down Euston to final Destination which is the Ibis Hotel Euston (on Cardington St). It would be useful to specify a precise destination when asking for directions. I think there's a slight US-UK terminology issue here. To the Brits "Euston" means "Euston Station". To an American "Euston" can easily mean "Euston Road" (as we see above). Please do take note of this MLD! If you ask the way to Oxford then you're likely to be told how to get to Oxford, a city more than 50 miles away from London. If you want to get to Oxford Street, or Oxford Circus, then make sure you say so! Same applies for Liverpool Street, Victoria Street, Euston Road etc etc. |
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, at 03:52:13 on Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Mizter T remarked: $1.60 (about 0.7 pounds--70p?) 70 pence indeed - thankfully we ditched the confusing non-decimal money back in 1971! Although the rate is 1.445 at the moment so £1.10 (plus/minus 5% if you are changing cash at a bureau). -- Roland Perry |
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, Mizter T writes On 26 Mar, 09:13, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 19:18:21 on Wed, 25 Mar 2009, MLD remarked: Walk down Euston to final Destination which is the Ibis Hotel Euston (on Cardington St). It would be useful to specify a precise destination when asking for directions. I think there's a slight US-UK terminology issue here. To the Brits "Euston" means "Euston Station". To an American "Euston" can easily mean "Euston Road" (as we see above). Please do take note of this MLD! If you ask the way to Oxford then you're likely to be told how to get to Oxford, a city more than 50 miles away from London. If you want to get to Oxford Street, or Oxford Circus, then make sure you say so! Same applies for Liverpool Street, Victoria Street, Euston Road etc etc. I'm sure if you Google you'll unearth me telling a quite incredible story emanating from that confusion....... -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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writes "Roland Perry" wrote in message ... I've avoided using buses in London most of my life. In fact despite periods when I've been travelling three days a week in the centre of London I honestly can't remember when I last caught a bus. Maybe 30 years ago. A combination of tube and walking is fine. Depends on the journey of course but in Central London it is frequently the best solution for me, I find. Absolutely. I'd rather have needles stuck in my eyes than get a bus in London. I'd tell you why but would rather not be branded a troll! Oh, OK then, I'll take a chance - aggressive, snarling, charmless drivers; foul-smelling chav passengers; no hint of a timetable; stuck in traffic for hours at a time; sailing past stops ignoring furious bell-ringing... Must be a different London from the one I work in. Are you sure you're not getting them confused with buses in **Birmingham**, where I recognise the description much more readily! :-) I'd rather shell out for a cab, or walk. I often enjoy walking, too. However, I reserve the "needles in eyes" routine for cabs. I can't explain it but I feel distinctly uncomfortable using a cab. Somehow it's conditioned into me as being "wrong". Can't explain it (other than resenting paying what it costs) but there you go. -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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writes Enjoying all the comments, especially seeing that it's all being done in such a very pleasant and courteous manner. Don't see that too often. After reading all the comments----- The WINNER is: Get a PAYG Oyster upon arrival at Heathrow, Piccadilly Line to King's Cross St. Pancras. Walk down Euston to final Destination which is the Ibis Hotel Euston (on Cardington St). This seems like the least complicated and the walk looks very doable--just be adding a little mileage to the luggage wheels. Yes, I;d say the same. From King's Cross Saint Pancras, you walk past Euston Station (on your right hand side; it will look more like a set of sixties office blocks than what you might expect a railway station to look like!), then turn right into Melton Street immediately after the station. The Ibis in then just past the second turn on the left. (You won't miss it; they don't exactly hide them,!) Modifications anyone?? I must add--coming from the Boston area, your tube system makes ours look like a kindergarten toy set. I confers I rather like the MBTA system. Boston was the first American city I ever visited and I still think it's the most charming of all of the ones I've seen. (Interestingly, the other contender, San Francisco, shares with Boston an extremely good public transport system.) Not that I've been to that many, to be fair. However, the cost is much less--we use a Charlie card (similar to the Oyster) and as a senior, pay $1.60 (about 0.7 pounds--70p?) More than that now. Over 60s resident in England now get free bus travel throughout Eng;land. Those resident in London also get free railed transport, as they do in most other of our Metropolitan areas. I appreciate that that won't help you. Perhaps if there hadn't been that unfortunate incident with tea in your harbour all those years ago the concession would have extended to you? :-)) I'll get my coat....... -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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![]() "Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 03:52:13 on Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Mizter T remarked: $1.60 (about 0.7 pounds--70p?) 70 pence indeed - thankfully we ditched the confusing non-decimal money back in 1971! Although the rate is 1.445 at the moment so £1.10 (plus/minus 5% if you are changing cash at a bureau). If you go into an exchange bureau you'll find that the spread on most currencies has risen to +/- 10% tim |
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![]() On 26 Mar, 11:16, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 03:52:13 on Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Mizter T remarked: $1.60 (about 0.7 pounds--70p?) 70 pence indeed - thankfully we ditched the confusing non-decimal money back in 1971! Although the rate is 1.445 at the moment so £1.10 (plus/minus 5% if you are changing cash at a bureau). Yes sorry I wasn't looking at the exchange rate, just confirming the units in use here and the appropriate terminology! |
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![]() "Ian Jelf" wrote in message ... In message , MLD writes Enjoying all the comments, especially seeing that it's all being done in such a very pleasant and courteous manner. Don't see that too often. After reading all the comments----- The WINNER is: Get a PAYG Oyster upon arrival at Heathrow, Piccadilly Line to King's Cross St. Pancras. Walk down Euston to final Destination which is the Ibis Hotel Euston (on Cardington St). This seems like the least complicated and the walk looks very doable--just be adding a little mileage to the luggage wheels. Yes, I;d say the same. From King's Cross Saint Pancras, you walk past Euston Station (on your right hand side; it will look more like a set of sixties office blocks than what you might expect a railway station to look like!), then turn right into Melton Street immediately after the station. The Ibis in then just past the second turn on the left. (You won't miss it; they don't exactly hide them,!) Modifications anyone?? I must add--coming from the Boston area, your tube system makes ours look like a kindergarten toy set. I confers I rather like the MBTA system. Boston was the first American city I ever visited and I still think it's the most charming of all of the ones I've seen. (Interestingly, the other contender, San Francisco, shares with Boston an extremely good public transport system.) Not that I've been to that many, to be fair. However, the cost is much less--we use a Charlie card (similar to the Oyster) and as a senior, pay $1.60 (about 0.7 pounds--70p?) More than that now. Over 60s resident in England now get free bus travel throughout Eng;land. Those resident in London also get free railed transport, as they do in most other of our Metropolitan areas. I appreciate that that won't help you. Perhaps if there hadn't been that unfortunate incident with tea in your harbour all those years ago the concession would have extended to you? :-)) I'll get my coat....... -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk Oh Ian, you were doing so good g and then you had to remind everyone that at one time there were a few disagreements between UK and the Colonies. Since you've been to Boston you must know that the city is loaded with historic sights and reminders of what went on during the late 1700's--I'm sure that you must have spent some time walking the Freedom Trail. Anyway--back to transportation-- the tube ("Subway" here) Senior fare started out at $0.10 (7p?), followed by rather modest increase for a while. And then in a rather rapid escalation it made it's way up to the current cost of the $1.60 (1.1 GBP). I'm about 10 mi. North of Boston--20 min drive to a subway station and then another 20 min to get into downtown Boston. One never drives into Boston unless you have a Death Wish--what was once cow paths are now one-way meandering streets aimed solely to confuse the driver. But on the other hand, it is a great, very walkable city--no need to use the "tube" to get around, you can just about walk everywhere. You guys have all been so helpful, how about a little off-topic suggestions? With the Ibis Euston Hotel as my base, what is the best way to attack (figuratively,that is) the city. Given six days, what is the best way to break it down into sections? Is it best to take a city tour first or get on one of those "Hop-on-Hop-Off" buses? I'm open to all suggestions on how to maximize our time in your city; we don't want to be running around in random back and forth, wasting lots of time kind of thing. MLD |
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"MLD" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying: how about a little off-topic suggestions? With the Ibis Euston Hotel as my base, what is the best way to attack (figuratively,that is) the city. Given six days, what is the best way to break it down into sections? I s'pose the first question is "What do you want to see & do?" I'm presuming you've got a good guidebook - figure out some of the "Must See!" things/places/attractions, and some rough headings to give us something to get our teeth into. D'you want to stay totally in the city, or would you be open to a day out? D'you want to do the "headline" sights, or would be be open to some of the lesser-known joys? Budget's also a factor, I presume - are you 5*-all-the-way people, or are you happy to trade off a bit of luxury for some "reality"? |
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![]() "Adrian" wrote in message ... "MLD" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: how about a little off-topic suggestions? With the Ibis Euston Hotel as my base, what is the best way to attack (figuratively,that is) the city. Given six days, what is the best way to break it down into sections? I s'pose the first question is "What do you want to see & do?" I'm presuming you've got a good guidebook - figure out some of the "Must See!" things/places/attractions, and some rough headings to give us something to get our teeth into. D'you want to stay totally in the city, or would you be open to a day out? D'you want to do the "headline" sights, or would be be open to some of the lesser-known joys? Budget's also a factor, I presume - are you 5*-all-the-way people, or are you happy to trade off a bit of luxury for some "reality"? Didn't want to clutter up the NG with a lot of specific OT subject matter---but since you asked-- I've got the guide book, do want to take in the typical tourist attractions but am open to the the quote: "lesser-known joys"---- the out of the way local places off the beaten path, especially some good eating places. We certainly are not 5* people; maintaining control of the spending is important but. at the same time, we're not the hostel type either. We've traveled many years in a "Pop Up" (Tent Trailer) all over the States, sleeping 4 kids; places with no water or electricity hookups--so "reality" is not something we'll shy away from. Most important, however, is to not waste a lot of time running around in a haphazard inefficient manner. Most likely, will spend all our time in the city. Thanks for your time MLD |
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