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On Mar 26, 10:55*pm, wrote:
Published today at:http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/pi/ro...ityeasteng.pdf Covers the London Liverpool Street to Cambridge/Stansted main line and London area branches. Quick highlights of proposals: * 12 car trains London to Cambridge and Stansted in 2012; 'longer' trains on the other routes It would help enormously if National Express ran existing trains to the advertised length. Having had the grave misfortune to use the Chingford Line in last Friday's PM peak when only 4 rather than 8 cars turned up I now understand why people get so upset at such antics. The other issue here is whether these longer trains will be in use all the time or just at peak times. While it is undoubtedly popular to relieve overcrowding at peak times having new additional resources sitting around doing nothing is not such good value for money. * 10 to 15 minute reduction on London to Cambridge and Stansted journey times Lovely for people catching planes or who live in the bordering counties. Not much use to anyone else. * extension of London Overground services from Stratford to Northumberland Park (or a shuttle service) Not at all sure what that is supposed to achieve. While I would love to see a service restored at places like Lea Bridge there is no talk here about the obvious link which is the Coppermill Curve to the Chingford Line - the alignment is still there and it would be a marginal additional to any grade separation works. It would also allow far better local services to be created if coupled with plans to add extra stations. I think a shuttle service would be far better than extending the NLL from Richmond. That strikes me as making the line extremely long and prone to even more delays as it would interface with yet another set of lines. A frequent local shuttle would probably be better but they need to be inventive with stations and interchanges - e.g. would they sort out Angel Road given its promixity to IKEA or would they contemplate a Ferry Lane station to give interchange on to GOBLIN but perhaps only with local line platforms on the 4 track section? A station near Ruckholt Road in Leyton to the north of the Olympics site would also be a good idea. The Chingford Line could easily have 3 extra stations (Forest Road, Winchester Road / North Circ, Chingford Hatch) added to improve its coverage. In another post the issue was identified about local rail line usage. Service frequencies are relatively poor via both Seven Sisters and Tottenham Hale for stopping services. You only need to look at the massive overcrowding all day, every day on the 192 bus to see that something is amiss in terms of real demand and how the modes work or more pertienently don't work. The Tottenham - Edmonton - Enfield corridor has extremely high bus frequencies and very high demand and yet I'm sure rail could cover a decent share of that market far more efficiently if only services and fares were more affordable. * grade-separation of Coppermill Junction and four-tracking from there to Tottenham Hale I am very surprised by this. I fail to see how they can get 4 tracks in the alignment immediately south of Tottenham Hale. You have Ferry Lane estate on one side and industrial and residential units including the retail park on the other. Unless the tracks are going to be on top of one another then it's going to be a very controversial move to cut a big swathe through there. I'd also question whether Tottenham Hale can be expanded to 4 tracks itself given the massive Hale Village redevelopment that is under construction now. They do seem rather fixated on how "low demand" at the inner stations would drag down the business case for other improvements. Quite why Stansted Airport needs 6 trains an hour I do not know. I also think a 15 minute inner suburban station is the bare minimum acceptable standard - rail services would be much more acceptable if they could run every 10 mins. I doubt there would be any issues about demand levels at places like Brimsdown etc if trains ran that frequently. They also need to think about stations to better serve developments like Enfield Island Village. * removal of many level crossings in the Lea Valley, both road and foot Well I can see why they wish to do this but that is not going to be an easy task with some of the road crossing in the Brimsdown - Edmonton area. Not a lot of space to either dig under or bridge over the rail lines. * 100mph ruling line speed * second tunnel on approach to Stansted Airport * signalling alterations to allow overnight services to/from Stansted Airport Anyone understand why signalling alterations are required for overnight services? The document is a reasonable start but it is completely lacking in imagination when it comes to required service levels and the opportunities for radical service developments to serve people in London. It's a given that they want to shuttle the outer area commuters in as fast as possible but I fail to see why scope for decent improvements within London should be sacrificed as part of the scheme. -- Paul Corfield via Google |
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