In article i,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

Walter Briscoe wrote:

Since then, I have been thinking about the teacup proposals,

BRAINWAVE.

On this group, we have two long-standing conundra: how to run the
circle line efficiently, and what to do with the recently disused
Widened Lines.

Each is, of course, the solution to the other. We have the
exclusive use of the Widened Lines between Farringdon junction and
Moorgate. On that stretch, there are platforms at Barbican.

[snip]

There's the snag. There isn't a down platform at Barbican.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Apr 7, 10:29*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Mr Thant wrote:

On 7 Apr, 11:36, "John Rowland"
wrote:
Would one of these fit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1NwXQaVAKA

That'd be perfect. And given said bridge is currently in storage (or
was last time I checked) due to maintenance expenses/vandalism/god
knows what,

Sexual exhaustion, by the look of John's link ...


Are all the secretaries in Paddington Basin like that then?

fx: shoes being put on

[Anyone reading this thread in years to come via google groups, when
the youtube link above will almost certainly be dead, is going to be
mighty confused!]

wrote:

There's the snag. There isn't a down platform at Barbican.

There is, just not one that was used by Thameslink. But would it be short
enough for a Circle?

Neil Williams wrote:

The thing about the Circle Line, though, is that it's easy to
understand for tourists. You see a lot of tourists on the Circle, but
few on the Met.

But is it a lot of tourists, or just the same few going round and round?

In article ,
(Tim Roll-Pickering) wrote:

wrote:

There's the snag. There isn't a down platform at Barbican.

There is, just not one that was used by Thameslink. But would it be
short enough for a Circle?

When did a train last call at it?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Apr 8, 7:39*am, wrote:
In article ,

(Tim Roll-Pickering) wrote:
wrote:

There's the snag. There isn't a down platform at Barbican.

There is, just not one that was used by Thameslink. But would it be
short enough for a Circle?

When did a train last call at it?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

From what I was saying here it may have been spring 1994.

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.tr...35a0897312c1d1

I worry that it will be a case of "out of the frying-pan into a storm
in a tea-cup". For all its faults the current Circle is relatively
easy for strangers/tourists to interpret. Somehow the proposed
operating pattern seems to take us into a dimension beyond the normal
capacity of the underground map to portray effectively.Since it
appears that the new regime will still operate under the Circle Line
"umbrella" I can forsee Hiram T. Pipesucker and family from New
Dworkin experiencing regular brain implosions in their attempts to
make sense of things. Additionally Edgware Road looks like being even
more liable to be the place where operations will get loused up on a
grand scale.

--
gordon

wrote in message
...
I worry that it will be a case of "out of the frying-pan into a storm
in a tea-cup". For all its faults the current Circle is relatively
easy for strangers/tourists to interpret. Somehow the proposed
operating pattern seems to take us into a dimension beyond the normal
capacity of the underground map to portray effectively.

Surely all it needs is a 'linked double circle symbol' [whatever it's proper
name is] - like at Baker St or West Hampstead. The upper circle would have a
pair of through pink and yellow lines, and the lower circle would have
terminating green and yellow lines. Job done...

Paul S

On Apr 12, 5:17*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
wrote in message

...

I worry that it will be a case of "out of the frying-pan into a storm
in a tea-cup". For all its faults the current Circle is relatively
easy for strangers/tourists to interpret. Somehow the proposed
operating pattern seems to take us into a dimension beyond the normal
capacity of the underground map to portray effectively.

Surely all it needs is a 'linked double circle symbol' [whatever it's proper
name is] - like at Baker St or West Hampstead. The upper circle would have a
pair of through pink and yellow lines, and the lower circle would have
terminating green and yellow lines. Job done...

Paul S

From the start of this I haven't understood the claims being made
about lack of terminus and depot.

Obviously the trains currently running on the Circle do come from
depots and do go in and out of service, at least at the ends of every
day, so those things must be perfectly possible as part of the
Hammersmith/Circle service.

There are other journeys within a wider service that don't happen to
pass the depot (eg Liverpool Street to Marble Arch, Lewisham to Bank,
North Greenwich to Willesden Green) but they don't happen to have a
different colour on the map.

In the case of unforeseen disruption, it's perfectly possible to
terminate and/or reverse a current Circle train at one of the places
(including Edgware Road) that it's possible to terminate at, just as
it will be after the change.

The plans for high frequency terminating all day every day at Edgware
Road, on the other hand, are impossible and will be a disaster, or
I'll eat my dinner.

On Sun, 12 Apr 2009, Paul Scott wrote:

wrote in message
...

I worry that it will be a case of "out of the frying-pan into a storm
in a tea-cup". For all its faults the current Circle is relatively easy
for strangers/tourists to interpret. Somehow the proposed operating
pattern seems to take us into a dimension beyond the normal capacity of
the underground map to portray effectively.

Surely all it needs is a 'linked double circle symbol' [whatever it's
proper name is] - like at Baker St or West Hampstead. The upper circle
would have a pair of through pink and yellow lines, and the lower circle
would have terminating green and yellow lines. Job done...

Indeed.

And they should rename it the Spiral line so as not to give the wrong
idea.

tom

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