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Not content with creating yet another pointless strike on the victoria
line about bugger all, this dyed in the wool ****** now seems to have
political ambitions over and above herding a bunch of thick militants on to
picket lines. Perhaps he sees the chaos he causes on LUL as a stepping stone
to the chaos he could cause in a parliament somewhe

http://no2eu.com/bobsblog.html

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Not content with creating yet another pointless strike on the victoria
line about bugger all, this dyed in the wool ****** now seems to have
political ambitions over and above herding a bunch of thick militants on
to
picket lines. Perhaps he sees the chaos he causes on LUL as a stepping
stone
to the chaos he could cause in a parliament somewhe


http://no2eu.com/bobsblog.html

As I understand it, No2EU are abstentionists so if elected they won't take
their seats in the European Parliament (a bit like the Sinn Fein attitude to
the Westminster Parliament). This has deprived them of a fantastic election
line: "Sick of tube strikes? Then vote No2EU and Bob Crowe will disappear!"


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"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message

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Not content with creating yet another pointless strike on the
victoria line about bugger all, this dyed in the wool ****** now
seems to have political ambitions over and above herding a bunch of
thick militants on to
picket lines. Perhaps he sees the chaos he causes on LUL as a
stepping stone
to the chaos he could cause in a parliament somewhe


http://no2eu.com/bobsblog.html

As I understand it, No2EU are abstentionists so if elected they won't
take their seats in the European Parliament (a bit like the Sinn Fein
attitude to the Westminster Parliament).


But will they still be able to claim the super-generous MEP expenses,
which seem to be the main reason to get elected?


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On Wed, 20 May 2009 22:34:22 +0100
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But will they still be able to claim the super-generous MEP expenses,
which seem to be the main reason to get elected?


They'd probably go on strike if they couldn't. In fact they'd probably go
on strike anyway for a rise while simultaniiously demanding shorter working
hours.

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On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:

As I understand it, No2EU are abstentionists so if elected they won't take
their seats in the European Parliament (a bit like the Sinn Fein attitude to
the Westminster Parliament).


The difference is that Sinn Fein aren't allowed to take their seats at
Westminster, whereas No2EU would be allowed to.

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David Cantrell wrote:

As I understand it, No2EU are abstentionists so if elected they won't
take
their seats in the European Parliament (a bit like the Sinn Fein attitude
to
the Westminster Parliament).


The difference is that Sinn Fein aren't allowed to take their seats at
Westminster, whereas No2EU would be allowed to.


No Sinn Fein are allowed. They refuse to do so because they believe taking
their seats would be recognising the legitimacy of the UK to govern Northern
Ireland. (They used to boycott both the Dail and Stormont as well.) If Sinn
Fein wanted to take their seats nothing could stop them. They do make use of
Commons offices, claim expenses and have sometimes been around Parliament at
a higher rate than various non-abstentionist MPs.


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"Tim Roll-Pickering" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

As I understand it, No2EU are abstentionists so if elected they won't
take their seats in the European Parliament (a bit like the Sinn Fein
attitude to the Westminster Parliament).


The difference is that Sinn Fein aren't allowed to take their seats at
Westminster, whereas No2EU would be allowed to.


No Sinn Fein are allowed. They refuse to do so because they believe
taking their seats would be recognising the legitimacy of the UK to
govern Northern Ireland.


Strange how UKIP don't already do that with the EU parliament, eh?
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Adrian wrote:

No Sinn Fein are allowed. They refuse to do so because they believe
taking their seats would be recognising the legitimacy of the UK to
govern Northern Ireland.


Strange how UKIP don't already do that with the EU parliament, eh?


They don't want to cut themselves off from salaries, expenses or the chance
to feel important.


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In article , Tim Roll-Pickering
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No Sinn Fein are allowed. They refuse to do so because they believe taking
their seats would be recognising the legitimacy of the UK to govern Northern
Ireland. (They used to boycott both the Dail and Stormont as well.) If Sinn
Fein wanted to take their seats nothing could stop them.


Isn't it something about refusing to take an oath of allegiance?

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Bill Borland wrote:

No Sinn Fein are allowed. They refuse to do so because they believe taking
their seats would be recognising the legitimacy of the UK to govern
Northern
Ireland. (They used to boycott both the Dail and Stormont as well.) If
Sinn
Fein wanted to take their seats nothing could stop them.


Isn't it something about refusing to take an oath of allegiance?


They focus on that but that's only because it's easier to get public
sympathy for attacking Parliamentary protocol (and there is a long history
of opposition to particular oathes in Ireland) than pretending that by not
taking their seats they are undermining the basis of UK rule.




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