On 5 June, 21:44, Tom Barry wrote:
wrote:

If YOU could be arsed to read you'd find that these are segregated
lanes, i.e. dedicated for cycling.

No they aren't, you bloody fool. *Some of them are existing bus lanes,
some (for instance along the A13 for quite a long way) are high grade
segregated paths built when the road was widened to near motorway
standard a few years ago. *In a few places where the road's too narrow
there won't be a path at all.

Spending money and taking roadspace away from cars are rather un-Boris
things to do. *Taking someone else's work and branding it as his for a
trivial sum of money, however, is par for the course, and that's what
this exercise appears to be.

Tom (who's mapping them at the moment for his own edification and amusement)

Cable Street is a very interesting example, which partly consists of a
raised two-way cycle lane, which prevents cars being parked there, in
a narrow one-way street for drivers. Some of the dedicated traffic
lights for cyclists can take a long time to change but then it is a
pleasure to cross while all the other heavy traffic has to wait. For a
short time there the cyclist no longer feels like a second class road
user constantly under threat of instant death.

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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 23:27:02 -0700 (PDT), Doug
wrote:

On 5 June, 21:44, Tom Barry wrote:
wrote:

If YOU could be arsed to read you'd find that these are segregated
lanes, i.e. dedicated for cycling.

No they aren't, you bloody fool. *Some of them are existing bus lanes,
some (for instance along the A13 for quite a long way) are high grade
segregated paths built when the road was widened to near motorway
standard a few years ago. *In a few places where the road's too narrow
there won't be a path at all.

Spending money and taking roadspace away from cars are rather un-Boris
things to do. *Taking someone else's work and branding it as his for a
trivial sum of money, however, is par for the course, and that's what
this exercise appears to be.

Tom (who's mapping them at the moment for his own edification and amusement)

Cable Street is a very interesting example, which partly consists of a
raised two-way cycle lane, which prevents cars being parked there, in
a narrow one-way street for drivers. Some of the dedicated traffic
lights for cyclists can take a long time to change but then it is a
pleasure to cross while all the other heavy traffic has to wait. For a
short time there the cyclist no longer feels like a second class road
user constantly under threat of instant death.

I had a click along Cable Street using Google Maps Street View. I was
not particularly impressed.

You can click along he
http://tinyurl.com/o5e2ye from:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF.... 33,,0,-0.68

On 6 June, 09:22, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 23:27:02 -0700 (PDT), Doug
wrote:



On 5 June, 21:44, Tom Barry wrote:
wrote:

If YOU could be arsed to read you'd find that these are segregated
lanes, i.e. dedicated for cycling.

No they aren't, you bloody fool. *Some of them are existing bus lanes,
some (for instance along the A13 for quite a long way) are high grade
segregated paths built when the road was widened to near motorway
standard a few years ago. *In a few places where the road's too narrow
there won't be a path at all.

Spending money and taking roadspace away from cars are rather un-Boris
things to do. *Taking someone else's work and branding it as his for a
trivial sum of money, however, is par for the course, and that's what
this exercise appears to be.

Tom (who's mapping them at the moment for his own edification and amusement)

Cable Street is a very interesting example, which partly consists of a
raised two-way cycle lane, which prevents cars being parked there, in
a narrow one-way street for drivers. Some of the dedicated traffic
lights for cyclists can take a long time to change but then it is a
pleasure to cross while all the other heavy traffic has to wait. For a
short time there the cyclist no longer feels like a second class road
user constantly under threat of instant death.

I had a click along Cable Street using Google Maps Street View. *I was
not particularly impressed.

You can click along hehttp://tinyurl.com/o5e2yefrom:http:/...4,-0.042057&sp...

Wrong end of Cable Street. Try exploring the street view further from
the Royal Mint Street end. You will notice no cars parked anywhere on
the cycle lane.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF.... 33,,0,-0.68

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