On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:35:39 +0100, "Matt Wheeler"
wrote:

Not anymore. Latest timetable i've seen only shows it serving Central
Bus station and Terminal 5. Seemingly the T4 stop has been dropped.

T4 is becoming a bit of a pain in the backside to get to/from these
days, particularly as HEx can't be arsed to publicise the timetable
for their infrequent service from there to T123, and it's a rather
long walk at both ends.

A shuttle bus wouldn't cost all that much - perhaps there is a need
for one. (There is a public bus, but that is also quite infrequent
and the passenger information is atrocious)

Neil

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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:31:45 +0100, Frederick Williams
wrote:

Now, there's a thought: train from Watford to MK, coach from MK to
Heathrow!

Which would be fine, but you'd need a bus or taxi ride in the middle
to take you to Campbell Park for the "interim coachway".

Neil

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On Jul 3, 7:52*pm, (Neil Williams)
wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:35:39 +0100, "Matt Wheeler"

wrote:
Not anymore. Latest timetable i've seen only shows it serving Central
Bus station and Terminal 5. Seemingly the T4 stop has been dropped.

T4 is becoming a bit of a pain in the backside to get to/from these
days, particularly as HEx can't be arsed to publicise the timetable
for their infrequent service from there to T123, and it's a rather
long walk at both ends.

The timetable might not be publicised - but Heathrow Connect provides
a 4tph link between Heathrow T123 and T4 stations - e.g., see the T123
departures towards T4 on th LDB he
http://realtime.nationalrail.co.uk/l...px?T=HXX&S=HAF

Heathrow Connect runs half hourly from Paddington of course, but once
an HC train reaches T4 it then provides a run from T4 back to T123,
then reverses back to T4, before reversing again to provide a full
through service from T4 via T123 to Paddington. The gaps between
services are 8 minutes and 22 minutes, which I guess makes some sense
from a timetabling point of view.

Very quickly glancing at the full arrivals and departures LDB screen
for Heathrow T123 station, it appears that at least some of these HC
departures for T4 dovetail in with HEx arrivals from Paddington - but
I haven't worked out the pattern. See:
http://realtime.nationalrail.co.uk/l...ion.aspx?T=HXX


A shuttle bus wouldn't cost all that much - perhaps there is a need
for one. * (There is a public bus, but that is also quite infrequent
and the passenger information is atrocious)

Which bus is that? The only bus I can see on the TfL bus spider maps
that directly links Heathrow Central bus station (for T123) and T4 is
the infrequent Green Line 724 route - and that's now out of date, as
the 724 now visits Heathrow Central before going on to terminate at
T5.

However there are two London buses that link T5 with T4 - routes 482
and 490, the former being every 15 mins during the day, the latter
"every 10-13 mins" - so that might be an option. The "Heathrow
Freeflow" free bus travel arrangements mean you don't need to pay.

The Heathrow T4 bus spider map is here (PDF):
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/gettingaro...nal4-14075.pdf

Incidentally, I agree that information about bus and coach services at
Heathrow Central *used* to be absolutely atrocious - it seems BAA
decided they'd do it all themselves, and did a really shoddy job of
it, and there weren't even any TfL bus spider maps on display -
nowadays I think it is very much improved. The change happened when
National Express took over responsibility for running Heathrow Central
bus and coach station - there's a fairly new building for passengers
to wait in, along with coach ticket sales desks and an information
desk (and also a special rail ticket sales desk, run by NX, for the
benefit of those pax wishing to connect to trains by RailAir coaches).
Overall signage is much better now. And TfL bus spider maps have
appeared! Though I think they might only be located near the local bus
stands - I've a feeling they don't appear in the main bus station
building, which is a shame,

On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 01:45:38 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:

Which bus is that? The only bus I can see on the TfL bus spider maps
that directly links Heathrow Central bus station (for T123) and T4 is
the infrequent Green Line 724 route - and that's now out of date, as
the 724 now visits Heathrow Central before going on to terminate at
T5.

Two hundred and something, I think. I forget, but it was on the stops
when I was last at T4, but I declined to use it as I'd just missed
one.

[T123 bus station]
there's a fairly new building for passengers
to wait in

There is, and it's quite nice - but quite unusual in appearing to have
an inflatable roof!

Neil

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Mizter T wrote

The timetable might not be publicised - but Heathrow Connect provides
a 4tph link between Heathrow T123 and T4 stations - e.g., see the T123
departures towards T4 on th LDB he
http://realtime.nationalrail.co.uk/l...px?T=HXX&S=HAF

[...]
A shuttle bus wouldn't cost all that much - perhaps there is a need
for one. * (There is a public bus, but that is also quite infrequent
and the passenger information is atrocious)

Which bus is that? The only bus I can see on the TfL bus spider maps
that directly links Heathrow Central bus station (for T123) and T4 is
the infrequent Green Line 724 route - and that's now out of date, as
the 724 now visits Heathrow Central before going on to terminate at T5.

Probably a reference to the 555, two an hour for most of 0445-2205 -
not Tfl but
still covered by "Heathrow Freeflow" area free bus travel

In fact the 701(Woking) RailAir coach also links Heathrow Central bus
station (for T123) and T4, two an hour from 0545 to 2300)

The similar non-Tfl 441 directly links Heathrow Central bus station
(for T123) and T5, two an hour from 0500 to 2210.

(555 is Heathrow-T4-Walton-on-Thames; 441 Heathrow-T5-Egham-Englefield
Green, both Travel Surrey, both BAA supported).

However there are two London buses that link T5 with T4 - routes 482
and 490, the former being every 15 mins during the day, the latter
"every 10-13 mins" - so that might be an option. The "Heathrow
Freeflow" free bus travel arrangements mean you don't need to pay.

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