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378s to be unveiled today - BBC
On 13 July, 12:10, Mr Thant
wrote: On 13 July, 11:55, John B wrote: Presumably the logic is that if we're extending the GOBLIN platforms it might as well be to 4 cars (which'd be either 2x172 or 1x378 depending on electrification status), hence ordering and carrying out work for 3-car 172s would be completely pointless. No, three car 172s are definitely the plan, but the idea is that the other committed capacity increases will delay the necessity of three car trains for some time. Must admit that I hadn't seen mention of possible 3 car class 172s for Gospel Oak - Barking. Peak capacity goes up by 33% when they introduce the 4 tph timetable at the end of this year, and a further "30%"* when they introduce the two car 172s some time in 2010, then at some later date three car 172s will be introduced. The 172s are 23m coaches compared to the 20m class 150s, so there will certainly be more room overalll. I don't think we'll ever see longer class 172s on the line, instead we'll see 378s on the route. The 4tph and introduction of 172s give a substantial increase in capacity and assuming the electrification cash has been sorted out, I'd expect to see an additional order for the 378s. (Using these numbers, four car 172s every 15 minutes would have 3.5 times the capacity of the current service, which is simply not justified by current or any foreseeable near-future demand) But the 378s will be 4 car and so better to undertake the work now, rather than having a small sub-fleet with only 3 cars for GOBLIN. It will also give the option of running 2 x 2 car 172s on particularly busy services. |
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