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Default Class 378s stabled at Euston

I often see London Overground Class 378s stabled in the sidings
between platforms 15 and 16 at Euston. Do these Class 378s simply
travel to Euston from Willesden because the depot is short of space,
or are these units doing test running? I did not notice until today
that these sidings do not have platforms.
Thanks, Dominic

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On Mar 15, 8:23*pm, Dominic wrote:
I often see London Overground Class 378s stabled in the sidings
between platforms 15 and 16 at Euston. Do these Class 378s simply
travel to Euston from Willesden because the depot is short of space,
or are these units doing test running? I did not notice until today
that these sidings do not have platforms.
Thanks, Dominic


It's all for night-time test running purposes - more specifically, for
the accumulation of fault-free mileage before they go into full
passenger service. I'll leave it to others more expert than I to
correct most of what I've said...!
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:11:26 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
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On Mar 15, 8:23*pm, Dominic wrote:
I often see London Overground Class 378s stabled in the sidings
between platforms 15 and 16 at Euston. Do these Class 378s simply
travel to Euston from Willesden because the depot is short of space,
or are these units doing test running? I did not notice until today
that these sidings do not have platforms.
Thanks, Dominic


It's all for night-time test running purposes - more specifically, for
the accumulation of fault-free mileage before they go into full
passenger service. I'll leave it to others more expert than I to
correct most of what I've said...!

AFAIAA Willesden does not provide "parking facilities" for DC line
trains which are not in for repair but Euston has done so since
Croxley depot was closed.
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Mizter T wrote:
On Mar 15, 8:23 pm, Dominic wrote:
I often see London Overground Class 378s stabled in the sidings
between platforms 15 and 16 at Euston. Do these Class 378s simply
travel to Euston from Willesden because the depot is short of space,
or are these units doing test running? I did not notice until today
that these sidings do not have platforms.
Thanks, Dominic


It's all for night-time test running purposes - more specifically, for
the accumulation of fault-free mileage before they go into full
passenger service. I'll leave it to others more expert than I to
correct most of what I've said...!


With the full LO fleet in use Euston is required as part of the normal
overnight stabling plan anyway, for 4 units.

It is expected that NLL and DC line units will be outberthed at Stratford
(station and Orient Way), Euston, and Watford Junction.

There is an analysis of the berthing requirements on the ORR website,
basically there have to be outststations used, because there isn't enough
time time at the end of one day's timetable for all the units to get back to
Willesden, be maintained, and then get out to the next morning's start
points.

Paul S


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On 16 Mar, 10:23, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Mizter T wrote:
On Mar 15, 8:23 pm, Dominic wrote:
I often see London Overground Class 378s stabled in the sidings
between platforms 15 and 16 at Euston. Do these Class 378s simply
travel to Euston from Willesden because the depot is short of space,
or are these units doing test running? I did not notice until today
that these sidings do not have platforms.
Thanks, Dominic


It's all for night-time test running purposes - more specifically, for
the accumulation of fault-free mileage before they go into full
passenger service. I'll leave it to others more expert than I to
correct most of what I've said...!



I don't believe this is the case, as most of the units to be seen
stabled at Euston have already been commissioned and in passenger
service.

With the full LO fleet in use Euston is required as part of the normal
overnight stabling plan anyway, for 4 units.

It is expected that NLL and DC line units will be outberthed at Stratford
(station and Orient Way), Euston, and Watford Junction.

There is an analysis of the berthing requirements on the ORR website,
basically there have to be outststations used, because there isn't enough
time time at the end of one day's timetable for all the units to get back to
Willesden, be maintained, and then get out to the next morning's start
points.


At the moment all the units are at the western end of the North London
Line, due to the closure of the east of Gospel Oak. This means that
Willesden would be overfull anyway, and extra units need to be
stabled. Of course, if Willesden depot wasn't so full of Mk 3 coaches,
there would be plenty of room for the units out-stabled at Euston, but
I guess that money talks.



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