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Senior railcard discount - or not? - on Anytime travelcard
On Sep 9, 4:55 pm, Peter Campbell Smith wrote: Can anyone help me understand this (from http://www.senior-railcard.co.uk/)? * All Senior Railcard holders will get 1/3 off Anytime Day Travelcards (Zones 1 - 6) for journeys starting outside the London Travelcard zones. * Existing Railcard conditions apply and discounts will be subject to any time restrictions that apply to the Railcard, for instance restrictions on travel on week day mornings in the London & South East area. An Anytime Day Travelcard is one valid at peak (and off-peak) times, unlike the cheaper Off-Peak one. So if I want to travel at peak time, say starting at 8am, the first bullet point seems to suggest I get a discount.. But the second one says that the discount is subject to the usual time restrictions, which a "However, you won’t be able to enjoy a Railcard discount when travelling peak time Monday to Friday within London and the South East, including all South West Trains services to and from London Waterloo." So that seems to say that I can buy a discounted Anytime Day Travelcard, but I can only use it off-peak. Why would I want to do that? Is there some part of the day that is off-peak for the London and South East restriction, but still peak from a Travelcard point of view? First Capital Connect and NXEA both have evening restrictions on the return portions of off-peak tickets for trains leaving London during the evening rush - these restrictions apply both to Off-Peak Day Returns and also outboundary Travelcards. Therefore if one wanted to return during these times, one could buy a Railcard-discounted Anytime Travelcard. (Or alternatively side step the restrictions!) FCC's information page on their restrictions is he http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk...iCmsPageId=134 NXEA has some information about the restrictions he http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia...f_peak_tickets or via http://tinyurl.com/NXEA-off-peak-tickets FGW also have some similar-ish restrictions, but I'm afraid they always confuse me somewhat - for example, you can make use of Turbo train services (i.e. what was Thames Trains then FGWL) but not HSTs (i.e. 'Intercity' services). Unfortunately FGW don't provide any straightforward information on their website (or in any leaflets) that clarifies the situation, which is IMO a bit stupid. |
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Senior railcard discount - or not? - on Anytime travelcard
If you want to use the fast services in the evening peak from
Paddington you need the anytime ticket. |
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Senior railcard discount - or not? - on Anytime travelcard
On 2009-09-09 17:17:24 +0100, Mizter T said:
On Sep 9, 4:55 pm, Peter Campbell Smith wrote: Can anyone help me understand this (from http://www.senior-railcard.co.uk/)? * All Senior Railcard holders will get 1/3 off Anytime Day Travelcar ds (Zones 1 - 6) for journeys starting outside the London Travelcard zones. * Existing Railcard conditions apply and discounts will be subject to any time restrictions that apply to the Railcard, for instance restrictio ns on travel on week day mornings in the London & South East area. An Anytime Day Travelcard is one valid at peak (and off-peak) times, unli ke the cheaper Off-Peak one. So if I want to travel at peak time, say starting at 8am, the first bullet point seems to suggest I get a discount . But the second one says that the discount is subject to the usual time restrictions, which a "However, you won’t be able to enjoy a Railcar d discount when travelling peak time Monday to Friday within London and the South East, including all South West Trains services to and from London Waterloo." So that seems to say that I can buy a discounted Anytime Day Travelcard, but I can only use it off-peak. Why would I want to do that? Is there some part of the day that is off-peak for the London and South East restriction, but still peak from a Travelcard point of view? First Capital Connect and NXEA both have evening restrictions on the return portions of off-peak tickets for trains leaving London during the evening rush - these restrictions apply both to Off-Peak Day Returns and also outboundary Travelcards. Therefore if one wanted to return during these times, one could buy a Railcard-discounted Anytime Travelcard. (Or alternatively side step the restrictions!) FCC's information page on their restrictions is he http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk...iCmsPageId=134 NXEA has some information about the restrictions he http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia..._types/off_pea k_tickets or via http://tinyurl.com/NXEA-off-peak-tickets FGW also have some similar-ish restrictions, but I'm afraid they always confuse me somewhat - for example, you can make use of Turbo train services (i.e. what was Thames Trains then FGWL) but not HSTs (i.e. 'Intercity' services). Unfortunately FGW don't provide any straightforward information on their website (or in any leaflets) that clarifies the situation, which is IMO a bit stupid. Some relatives travelled as a group to London (and back!) a couple of months ago on off-peak tickets and were given a printed (or possibly photocopied) list of the trains they could use to return to Reading in the evening peak by the clerk at the ticket office. So such a document does exist, even if it is a local initiative. -- Robert |
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