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Hi all,

I heard a rumour (yeah, I know..) that Heathrow T4 tube will close before
the end of the year, as work then begins on T5. Is this true? Anyone know
anymore on this or have i been misinformed?

Geoff.



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I heard a rumour (yeah, I know..) that Heathrow T4 tube will close before
the end of the year, as work then begins on T5. Is this true? Anyone know
anymore on this or have i been misinformed?


In case you hadn't notice, they started building T5 a long while back. It's
nonsense.

G


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I heard a rumour (yeah, I know..) that Heathrow T4 tube will close
before
the end of the year, as work then begins on T5. Is this true?

Anyone know
anymore on this or have i been misinformed?


It may or may not be true but it isn't completely ridiculous either.
I believe closure was proposed for April this year but that it then
slipped to October/November and must presumably have slipped again. I
would have thought that if there was a firm date it would be splatted
on the TfL site somewhere but it doesn't seem to be, but then the TfL
site does like to hide information so you never know.

It would be the T5 tube extension not T5 itself, of course, as
construction on T5 has been going on for ages.

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I did indeed mean the T5 tube extension and not T5 itself!

Just been all through the TFL/tube website and I can't find any reference
about it, so if it IS there, then it is hidden well - yup!

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I heard a rumour (yeah, I know..) that Heathrow T4 tube will close

before
the end of the year, as work then begins on T5. Is this true?

Anyone know
anymore on this or have i been misinformed?


It may or may not be true but it isn't completely ridiculous either.
I believe closure was proposed for April this year but that it then
slipped to October/November and must presumably have slipped again. I
would have thought that if there was a firm date it would be splatted
on the TfL site somewhere but it doesn't seem to be, but then the TfL
site does like to hide information so you never know.

It would be the T5 tube extension not T5 itself, of course, as
construction on T5 has been going on for ages.



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Well I just had a 'lightbulb' moment, and though I'd ring LU to find out.
Rang up their specific customer number Piccadilly Line .. asked when T4 was
going to close.

The chap politely told me that it had to close for construction work that
was abot to take place on the T5 station.

"I know that! but WHEN is T4 going to close?"

"Ah.." he says .. "I'll go and find out", put me on hold for 17 minutes and
then the phone went dead.

Ah well...





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Gerard McGovern wrote:

In case you hadn't notice, they started building T5 a long while back. It's
nonsense.


No it isn't - there's going to be a closure for creating the tube branch
to T5.
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:54:58 -0000, "Geoff Marshall"
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Well I just had a 'lightbulb' moment, and though I'd ring LU to find out.
Rang up their specific customer number Piccadilly Line .. asked when T4 was
going to close.

The chap politely told me that it had to close for construction work that
was abot to take place on the T5 station.

"I know that! but WHEN is T4 going to close?"

"Ah.." he says .. "I'll go and find out", put me on hold for 17 minutes and
then the phone went dead.

Ah well...

Although actual dates are not mentioned, a quick search on the tube
website came up with this

http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/press...es/0111/20.asp
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"Geoff Marshall" wrote in message ...
Well I just had a 'lightbulb' moment, and though I'd ring LU to find out.
Rang up their specific customer number Piccadilly Line .. asked when T4 was
going to close.

The chap politely told me that it had to close for construction work that
was abot to take place on the T5 station.

"I know that! but WHEN is T4 going to close?"

"Ah.." he says .. "I'll go and find out", put me on hold for 17 minutes and
then the phone went dead.

Ah well...


Don't you get compensation for that, you do if your tube train doesn't
come in 15 minutes

Are they still persuing with the idea that half the trains will go to
T5 and half will go as usual? I know there's a valid reason for this
(different T5 location than planned so now they can't build a feasible
loop I believe), however there's gonna be a load of lost passengers
along the branch when the time comes.
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In case you hadn't notice, they started building T5 a long while back.
It's
nonsense.


No it isn't - there's going to be a closure for creating the tube branch
to T5.


Ah, I didn't see the word 'tube' after T4!

Apologies.

G


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I know that the whole POINT of their being such a long distance with the
'loop' between 4 and 1,2,3 at the moment is that it was done deliberately
with T5 expansion in mind, so that they wouldn't have to build any 'spur'
branches .. But T5 has now been sited not where it was thought to be, hence
having to build a spur for T5! So the annoying thing is that all this time,
the distance between 4 and 1,2,3 could have been much shorter!

According to the PDF on the TFL website (which just says "2003" and is no
more specific than that), trains will run as:

... from Acton Town - Hatton Cross - T4 - T5 and in reverse. and:
... from Acton Town - Hatton Cross - T123 - T5 and in reverse.

So the 'loop' between T4 and T123 becomes redundant? And that if you want
to go via tube between 123 and 4, you'llnow have to go via Hatton Cross
instead!

Geoff.

Are they still persuing with the idea that half the trains will go to
T5 and half will go as usual? I know there's a valid reason for this
(different T5 location than planned so now they can't build a feasible
loop I believe), however there's gonna be a load of lost passengers
along the branch when the time comes.





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