Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Oct 24, 5:22 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" wrote:

Peter T. Daniels wrote:

On Oct 24, 1:24 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" wrote:

Peter T. Daniels wrote:

exiting in Rockaway required a token. Entering in Rockaway required
two tokens.

There was some sort of paper transfer for people who were traveling
within the Rockaways (described here within the last few weeks).

Here's a scan of the transfer:http://www.thejoekorner.com/transfers/rockline.gif

The local passenger still paid the double fare. Paid three on entering
and got one back on the exit. This was to protect the then private bus
company from 'unfair' competition from the city owned subway line.

How did they get the third token from the local traveler?

We had a "bungalow" there in 1955 or 1956 (whichever summer the major
hurricane threatened, so we had to leave ahead of schedule), and I
remember the double fare.

The back of the transfer explains it. You 'buy' the transfer from the
RR Clerk plus the two token to get into the system. When you leave the
system, you turn in the transfer and the clerk lets you out without
using the turnstile. You got your choice of either the cash fare or a
token.


Explain the logic? You can either spend three tokens (two to get in
and one to get out) or two tokens plus the price of one token, plus
having to deal with a piece of paper to get out?

How does this benefit anyone -- TA, passenger (they weren't
"customers" yet), or local bus company?

You miss the point, local riding by subway still cost two fares. The
bus took longer to travel, at least between the end stations and
Hammel's Wye. The thought was, if the subway charged the same fare, the
bus company would lose riders.

At the time the transfers I posted were sold, the fare was 20 cents.
You paid 60 to get on and got back 20, net fare 40 cents. The bus
charged 20 cents.


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